Or you just did not have them on overview. Of you were bumped by a roid when trying to warp out. Or you did underestimate their DPS a lot, eg because you were used to anemic NPCs. Or you thought you could kill them in time.
And then you can be paying attention, eg answering someone in the rookie chat. Or updating your market orders. Or trying to find a nice new fit that just holds super tight. Or just opened the industry window .market orders and fitting window can sometimes freeze your game ; industry does it all the time with enough jobs.
All of those are are problems that are caused by the pilot not the trigâs.
Donât get to close to the rocks.
Make sure your overview is correct.
I know they hit hard thatâs why I prepare myself to be able to warp out.
If by now you donât have your overview set up for Trigs, and know they hit hard, you havenât been paying attention.
Thatâs a perfectly reasonable thing to say at this stage, itâs not day 1 of new content any more.
And your barge getting hung up on rocks is newbie mining level. So⌠ok, a total newbie might do it, but anyone else again⌠wasnât paying attention to what they were doing.
Or like I wrote can have a freeze of the UI, eg when opening industry job (mine freezes for 30s).
But yeah in normal circumstances itâs pretty easy to avoid them when you are ATK. STILL most people who complain about them are noobs (in the help chan you can have stories of newbros who die without even seeing the rats).
Even people I know are not âvery fast to reactâ, and were ATK (we were talking in vocal), and I watched them getting dunked even though I was already in safety. The time after that I used warped fleet instead. Itâs normal to panic when you are not used to a situation or are in a situation of stress.
Ok you open an industry job while in a belt and it freezes your screen and yes Iâve had that. But I donât open the industry panel while mining in a belt.
Look Iâm not trying to have a words war with you but you do something that creates lag and you donât see the trigs. Is that the pilots fault ?
Again, anyone who uses the industry UI sufficient to experience a freeze, since it requires decent number of blueprints to cause that, knows about it, and therefore isnât paying attention to things if they open it in a system with trigs in it.
And sure, you get newbie stories, thatâs nice. They can learn from a cheap ship loss and continue on, fixing the problem, asking for advice.
You are over simplifying the problem. Sometimes I am asked to build something, in the middle of a warp . When the freeze stops, I am already in the next system. And I donât have that much bps.
You are actively trying to create a âplayer faultâ for situations that ARE an issue. Itâs a matter of several issues that pile up together.
Yes, you can learn to never get into those edgy situations. Still, they exist and can be the reason why people lose ships while still being active.
FYI I never lost a ship to trigs outside of abyssal pockets. I know how to deal with them (procurers are good). But just because I know, does not mean that everybody who does not know is at fault.
Thatâs your mistake of bittervet, thinking that because you overcame a bad design means this design is not bad.
Also I consider the trigs are totally fine. Although I think they should warp to anoms and not to sig but, well, just my opinion.
If I die to trigs, yes it would (mostly) be my fault or a bug. Does not allow me to say that for other people it would be the same.
Everything you said so far sounds like people whining because they want to afk mine and the trigâs donât allow that.
Afk mining is bad.
You do something that gets you ship killed by trigâs then next time donât do it
As for looking up info, sure. Probably do that after their first or second encounter.
Anyway, thereâs been a lot of recent changes to the game, especially within the past few years. I highly doubt most returning players are going to spend a bunch of time looking up a bunch of info before jumping out into space.
Nope.
The overview works with hidden-by-default. You donât seen anything unless you specifically requested to see them.
So the first time you return, you donât see any trig at all. Because they were not present before and as such, they are not in the list of types to show.