STFU and go play a different game, it is obvious this game is not for you.
Uninstall, DO NOT REPLY to me, just STFU and go away!
Do I understand the difference between the security status in highsec and security in general? Of course I do. The question is that I propose to make this security real for those who do not like pvp, but like EVE - online. I think there are more such people than those who like pvp. Your wonderful explanation was wasted, because such a situation is absolutely not real. Imagine that there is a crowd of armed gangsters constantly on duty outside the doors of the commodity exchange on Wall Street. Where are the police looking, why donāt they deal with them. So this comparison is a bit far-fetched.
You are a rude and ignorant person who canāt tell the difference between real changes and forum discussions. I think itās people like you who love to kill defenseless newbies in highsec.
I propose to change this. People who have set themselves to green security status, and also have a status higher than 5 in highsec Caldari, for example, should not be attacked. These people really hate pvp, but they like the game. They should be allowed to do their own thing in peace.
ou have mined 10 times less, but the resources for construction are also 10 times less. You can build the same number of ships as before. What is not satisfying you?
People have been complaining about ganking for 20+ years, CCP has not and will not remove it from the game entirely.
Theyāve made ganking substantially more difficult over the years, for example by significantly increasing the EHP of mining ships and by no longer allowing Alpha accounts to set safety to Red.
If you want to continue playing this game, itās YOU that will need to accept the reality of hisec ganks and adapt YOUR playstyle to mitigate the risks.
Hereās the thing about a successful gank: it ALWAYS begins with a bad decision on the part of the gankee. Every Single Time.
Said poor decision might be as simple as not scouting their route. Failing to keep an eye on local and using their d-scan. Deciding to haul expensive stuff through a known ganking hotspot in an untanked industrial. AFK mining in a Hulk close to Jita.
Simple decisions, like using a Skiff or Procurer instead of a Hulk/Covetor for your mining operation can protect you from a lot of casual ganks. I speak here from personal experience. I occasionally like to see a hisec exhumer go BOOM. If I pop out a hisec wormhole and see Hulks, Mackinaws, Retrievers or Covetors on d-scan, I might try and put a little gank squad together. If I see Skiffs, I just go about my other business. Against a dedicated gank crew, even thatās not a surefire method.
What IS a surefire method? Watching local. Using your D-Scan. You suddenly see local spike and a bunch of Catalysts appear on D-Scan, warp off. Run away.
You simply cannot, and should not be able to, completely avoid PvP in EVE. Doesnāt matter if youāre in a 1.0 system or in the depths of Wormhole space. A sufficiently determined aggressor can, and will, engage you.
Itās up to YOU to adapt. Itās up to YOU to be proactive in maintaining your own safety. Honestly, once you develop some good habits, youāll cease worrying about gankers and unexpected PvP.
If YOU donāt like it, go play something else. Thereās plenty of other games out there. A lot of us fell in love with this game because, quite simply, thereās nothing else like it on the market. EVE PvP can still give me The Shakes of a huge adrenaline rush like no other game.
For example, I was clearing the Sleepers out of a gas site in my C5 a couple of days ago. I see a new Cosmic Signature appear in the probe scanner window. I saw combat probes on d-scan. I immediately hit the MJD on all of my filthy multiboxed accounts and warped back to my citadel. I was warping out as the sabers landed. Thankfully I got lucky and hit warp before the saber that went to bubble my fortizar got their bubble up, so I blew straight through that trap. Incidentally, the āattackersā were from a very large and well known wormhole corporation doing whatās known as a ārage rollā. Had those sabers caught me, Iād have had a full fleet of Nighthawks or Leshaks or some other bringers of doom on top of me.
I also learned something very valuable from that experience: donāt warp directly to the obvious structure in those situations. Iāll be keeping a POS fuelled up in future as my safe warp spot.
I got a great adrenaline rush from that.
The feeling of never being safe is one of those unique qualities.
Either learn to love it, or leave, Your choice.
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I donāt have much experience in the game, as there was a long pause in the game since 2011. However, I understand what you are writing about. I see Tengu on the subscan, but in a hurry I press the wrong button, and it kills me. All this takes no more than 3 seconds. There is no local chat in wormholes, as you understand. But I wrote about something completely different. When a player enters a wormhole, he is aware of the risk. Or I constantly watch the local in faction wars and press the V button. However, this is exhausting. If I need adrenaline in the game, then I will find it. The only thing I will not find in this game is a quiet place where I can relax. Thanks for the advice to leave the game, but I will not make such a decision based on someoneās opinion. Or I constantly watch the local in faction wars and press the V button. However, this is exhausting. If I need adrenaline in the game, then I will find it. The only thing I will not find in this game is a quiet place where I can relax. Thanks for the advice to leave the game, but I will not make such a decision based on someoneās opinion. However, all this is already unnecessary, since we are going in circles. I can only note that in other games PvP gets along well with PvE. But I like space games, and EVE is in first place for me among such games. I am satisfied with everything in the game, except for the paranoid thirst for PvP of the local community.
I understand that youāre looking for this, I too like having it.
Have you tried to find a more quiet spot in space and flown a cheap ship that you can easily replace if it were killed? You can relax more easily if little is on the line and if there is very little risk.
Or I also like to explore. Most of it is just completely safe while cloaked up, with only the moments I decloak and hack to bring any risk, but I can easily and safely wait any amount of time if I donāt trust the situation or want to take a break. Very relaxing gameplay!
No, EVE Online is not only about PVP, donāt attribute your interests to others. There are a lot of activities here that are not related to PVP.
A pilot with 10 years of experience just for fun blows up newbies on venturas, and then, perhaps, sends them compensation and gives advice (well, what, with a wallet worth many billions, compensating for venturas is practically nothing, but if he gives advice, heās a good person right away) ā A newbie is suddenly killedā¦ for no reasonā¦ in the empire where he thought he was protected, his mood is ruined, and then they throw him a handout with āfatherly instructionsā, which offends him even more => the newbie got offended and left EVE for another game, where he is not killed at the start and is not taught by every super-pumped no-name => EVE online without fresh blood is gradually falling (the fact is, I remember, many years ago it reached 80k, now it doesnāt even reach 40k, and this is with China, it is now also on Trunk) => The developers did not receive income from many ran away newbies, did not implement features, did not improve graphics, did not improve server hardware, moved to more profitable projects.
Itās a snowball, and it starts with True-PVP, which shoots at newbies in highsec. You can write with a smart look that you can podscan/local/guides/tank Procurer/Skiff, but a newbie is a newbie, itās strange to get a scientific degree in the game before the start of the game (and Procurer costs 70kk, where will a newbie get such money and skills, if he did not have time to load Ventura with Veldspar). Everything comes with practice and time, including the desire to buy an omega. And at the same time, no one encroaches on your PVP in low and null and W-space, and gank the fat merchants in high too, no one will say a word.
I think that those who mindlessly gank everyone and everything in highsec do it specifically to kill the game and something definitely needs to be done about it.
To be honest, I donāt like losing even cheap ships, because I feel sorry for the cargo and the time spent collecting it. But Iām not complaining about the situation in wormholes. Iām writing about safe highsec for those who really want it. I fly in highsec on an expensive ship and with expensive implants. And I donāt want anyone to even try to catch me, damn it. Just such an attempt traumatizes me mentally.
There is no safe wormhole space and also no safe high sec space in EVE.
They just have different rules of engagement that make flying in high sec space a bit more relaxed, but itās not safe and never meant to be safe.
Here I will side with PVP. Piracy is a very ancient tradition in EVE. If there is something to loot from a ship, then you need to be aware that they will try to loot you. Filaments are already a fat source of income, and with safe high-sec they will become an endless easy farm. And the fleets of multiboxers-miners will be more rampant (although where else, there is no point in mining for newbies alone, pennies and not earnings). Althoughā¦ if more than 2-3 windows are banned, it would be a great blow to multi-miners.
Why do these antigank threads keep appearing in this part of the forum?
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Except that it is.
PvP is baked into the game at the very basic level.
CONCORD is righteous retribution in hisec, not the guarantor of safety.
Iād actually suggest joining one of the major nullsec alliances. Ratting under the safety umbrella offered by a bloodyhirsty standing fleet is pretty safe. Intel channels alert you to intruders when theyāre many jumps out.
If mining is your thing, a huge alliance level mining fleet is one of the safest activities in the game.
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Great comment, which I was waiting for. I agree with every word. I have never seen a game more unfriendly to newbies. And the online that we have now is completely inconsistent with the capabilities of this wonderful game. Indeed, an influx of fresh blood is needed. Newbies should be fully protected.
I repeat, do not attribute your views to others. Tell me also that in Powerblockās nullsec is endless PVPā¦ They sit on their farms, print ISK and resources.
Being under the wing of a boss who takes a huge part of your income is even more humiliating than killing newbies in highsec. I would rather be killed by gankers than be a slave to a mafia boss. Nullsec power blocks should be completely disbanded.
Itās not āmy viewā.
Its CCPās view. Itās a decision ccp made way back in the late 90s when they first started development.
Well, Iām not a fan of PBs, I think they kill the very essence of dangerous and diverse nullsecs, but there is no talk of humiliation there, people have formed a safe environment for themselves in nullsecs. However, this is offtopic.
Letās say. But even so, this is no reason to leave everything as is. In a quarter of a century, views can become outdated. I donāt think you will be against decisions that bring in fresh blood. I like EVE Online, I have been playing it for over 15 years, but I see many shortcomings that can scare off the younger generation. Old players leave, new ones do not come - this is sad. This leads to a decrease in the developersā profits, and therefore problems for the project.
We need to find a solution that suits a larger number of players, newcomers, and those who have not yet joined. Thatās what forum discussions are for.