As a community verified Subject Matter Expert (SME) I can provide clarification.
I have spoken to more miners than any other player in the game. After ganking an Orca, we always invite them to a post-gank conversation and seek to investigate what happened. After a few minutes, most Orca pilots voluntarily explain why they failed to successfully complete their mining op. Fully 37% of these miners admit that they were not in the same room as their computer, with 19% noting that they were in the bathroom, 29% stating that they were having a cigarette, and 18% reporting yet another family emergency. 16% of miners did not realize they were undocked. 8% of ganked Orcas were engaged in auto-fellatio, 18% were watching a movie, 13% were busy on an elite nullsec main, 23% were hanging out on the couch eating Cheetos, 31% were writing me a poem, and a whopping 43% were intoxicated with drugs, alcohol, or paint fumes. An additional 36% of Orcas explain that they are mining at work, and 11% are currently stuck in interstate traffic, with the typical miner having their screen minimized for an average of 47.2 minutes.
more likely miners usually having multiple reason to be AFK, like having a family emergency in the bathroom while intoxicated and engaged in auto-fellatio.
You seem to always miss the point. Lots of professions are afk, hauling, research, manufacturing, invention, the list goes on and on. The bottom line as long as there is so much disagreement on this point, a large portion of the server will be unhappy with any change. At the risk of losing more players, I recommend maybe drop and move on.
Your sample is horribly biased and not random. You are sampling the ganked. And treating your sample as random. Your data is worthless for this discussion.
I know you all take your little costumes, scary avatars and role playing seriously. But you canāt role play statistics and math. I would not have provided that information if I were you, it proves my point. Your sample is so biased and based upon the tearing of clothes here, in the certainty that solo Orcas outnumber those in fleet, the results should have showed a much higher incidence of inattention and did not.
Iām adding this after further consideration. You sampled the ganked who generally speaking are the least informed, least prepared pilots in the game. And you are presenting the sample as representative of all pilots in what ever you claim your population to be. Orca pilots, care bears, scary tattooed avatar in jump suit onesies ā¦ I have no idea. Except, your results cannot, are not representative of the Orca pilots in Eve. You results are representative of the ganked and you have know idea how it scales or indexes to the population of Orca pilots.
Ok it was a busy weekend and RL family gatherings pulled me from my screen much of Sunday (today). But I did get pictures. The first is one fleet from Friday, there were several in system with +80 in local at times. Unlike dead zones of low and null.
This was a lite weekend but fairly normal. And a screen shot of my results before processing (low sec ore is several weeks old - not counted). Total m3 was 3,438,480
So your saying I have to buy five barges first and then I get to have an Orca. Thatās not how independent miners develop their fleets.
We can play the same game with gankers. You canāt have a web until you have six ships. No one should get a web unless they are supporting a fleet. There should be no solo webbers.
See how easy that is.
Iāve not witnessed a forum thread full of miners telling everyone else how to play other parts of this game. Why is that?
Youāre kidding right? Thereās an endless stream more than a decade long of miners telling anyone that wants to pvp that they should go to low and null where itās supposed to be done.
Your interpretation makes no sense compared to the words actually written.
However itās CCP that have indicated they are going to make changes to the Orca, not me, nor anyone else. Iām not against mining and never have been. Just lazy players, which mining seems to have a lot of.
Kid, in a real flight simulator Iād work you up so bad youād never want to play again. Eve online is not that kind of action game. Itās a MUD with a nice gui.
Letās take a Vigil - small EWAR frigate with target paint bonus.
Would you take a Vigil as solo pvp ship? Or would you bring the Vigil to increase the effectiveness of your fleet when you already have 5+ other ships that have a damage system that depends on the size of the enemy?
Clearly the Vigil is a good support ship that increases the effectiveness of a fleet but only once there are enough ships to support.
Iād like to have mining fleet support ships in a similar situation: where it makes no sense to fly one solo, but a lot of sense to support a mining fleet and increase the effectiveness of everyone on grid.
It already is the case that an Orca fills the supportive role really well. The only issue is that those ships are also capable solo miners, which competes with the role of the mining barges.
