there is plenty of games that you don’t lose your stuff in pvp
thats one of the aspects that always differentiate eve from other games
for decades eve have this feature as one of the principal attractives
if you don’t lose your ship the mineral you mine is worthless because eve have a player market
i really don’t understand your objections to the game
why do you want to fundamentally change the game a lot of players love
them people post vehemently opposing you guys and you don’t know why
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Not sure your comment is directed at me but I’m going to assume.
My only objection is that it’s too expensive for what it is.
I don’t want to change the game, no one can change the game but CCP but if I could change the game I would have designated constellations for PvE only and other constellations where anything goes, like pirate space or something, something really ‘Null Security’ but it’s not up to me and changing rhe game doesn’t interest me as much as making it cheaper to afford.
I know why and I can understand, that’s why I have no desire to change the game, I’m not that selfish.
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people go to null sec to join big alliances and farm big loot with a lot of protection
they have intel channels , rescuing fleets , gates to move several systems with no risk
one can say that in certain situations null sec is more secure than high sec
most of eve players search for security , you can bet that no one likes to lose ships
a few like a more risky style of gameplay , but they are more rare than you may think
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Not everyone wants to play within a group and end up paying Omega to be someone else’s monkey. Also, not everyone wants to play a game where it’s crucial to be on coms, not everyone wants to be on Discord or Teamspeak everyrime they want to play a game. And finally, if being in a corporation is the only way to enjoy EVE then CCP NEEDS to clarify on its adverts that EVE is a Co-op game and not advertise it as ‘Sandbox’ because when you say "sandbox’ I think freedom but seeing one’s self forced to be in a ‘guild’ just to survive a game does not feel like Sandbox, at all.
It seems to me that CCP want to have their cake and eat it too.
Either you’re a Co-op game or a sandbox game, can’t be both. You can’t tell players “You’re free but you have to”.
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thats why i left null sec
its boring , you have a boss , but in return they pay for the PVP ships you lose in fleets , they protect you etc
i hate it , some people love it
fortunately eve offers several other styles of gameplay
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Yes, when those styles of gameplay aren’t nerfed to death and it seems like it’s all CCP has done the past couple of years, nerf the game into oblivion and now they’re raising the prices?? If I didn’t know any better I’d say that CCP is taking us for complete fools.
So its boring and you hate it but because the game doesn’t give you a way for your style of play you are willing to pay for a game you don’t have fun in, where you have a “boss” and where you are forced to be because else you’re in danger, meaning losing ships… That doesn’t seem like sound judgment to me. Sorry.
im dirty poor because im free
if i had 2 billions in my wallet for sure i would buy more ships to PVP because its the aspect of the game i like the most
i dream about nightmares and bhaalgorns
meanwhile players like @Mr_Epeen are trillionaires
no one is forced to do anything in eve
as i said i left null sec
i was in a big alliance , didn’t like it , left for low sec
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Sorry I didn’t understand, my mistake.
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no problem 
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I agree. I don’t even have a mic with my computer…and as I’m often playing games at 2 am or 3am I don’t want to wake up my partner with fleet chat. That said, I think most fleet stuff consists of listening to what the commander has to say rather than babbling away oneself.
As far as co-operation is concerned, I’d rather be in a loosely associated group of people…more of a group of friends with common cause than some vast empire. More the sort of thing where I can just go into alliance chat and ask for helpers at some gate camp, or something like that.
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I have lots of ISK and lots of ships, but am still trying to figure out what to do with them all. Opportunities in highsec consist largely of ganking or chashing flashies…PvE is just too easy in highsec. Lowsec…well…is there any lowsec entrance that doesn’t have a pair of Tornados and a Hecate sitting there ? PvE is more fun in lowsec, though. I’ve yet to visit nullsec.
I have watched video with fleets and the pilots have to do what the commander says. It looks boring. What is not boring to me is explore and maybe do some pvp but if I’m going to lose money to do that on top of the subscription price then it becomes expensive in relation to the fun.
CCP should allow for more casual gameplay. Not afk gameplay but casual, meaning not everyone likes to lose the ship they paid for and the shananigan with CONCORD is ridiculous. CONCORD is supposed to be a military force for policing space but they’re as dumb as the neighborhood cop who lived 23000 years prior. It’s funny but kind of lame.
amarr low sec have a dangerous gate (the shortest route ) and a safe one (the longest)
most low sec players use DSTs(lots of cargo, tank and point resistance ) to carry unfitted ships and modules to a base station there
set destination to arzad and put most safe , the gate is empty most of the time
Read…my…lips…‘Solo’ means solo. It actually derives from the Latin word solus…which means ‘ALONE’. Amazingly, we get the word ‘solitary’ from that too.
Do you get it now ?
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Unlike all of you speculators, I’ve actually been killing people in this game as a full-time activity for nearly 20 years, so believe me when I tell you that the lion’s share of whining is done by the older players. Younger gamers are playing games like DayZ and Rust and PUBG, and they get it. Stop trying to offload your issues on “them kids” when it’s the bottom-eighties millennials and their old Gen-X and young boomer parents who’ve turned the personal entitlement SJW agenda into a religion.
And no, this isn’t conjecture. I’ve talked to hundreds of players I’ve killed, and sussed out their their ages and other personal information to construct a reliable quantitative understanding of who the whiners are. And I got real good at it too. You can easily get most of these people to start going off for hours about how they’re “too old for this ■■■■” and how they’re too busy being successful real-life family men by saying less than a dozen words to them. If you don’t believe it, go sit in the ganking channel for a week.
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hey i gave you a heart but take the gen Xs out of it 
there is no generation more anti woke than ours
wen i was a kid i could say the ■■■■ i wanted , we lived freedom and don’t like at all that return to authoritarianism that is coming
especially because wen we were born the old authoritarianism wave was ending
example me, i was born at the end of the Brazilian dictatorship , don’t need to tell you my opinion about the state eh
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They do. There are literally hundreds of videos with young people PvP’ing and talking smack to each other. My nephew does. He’s 10 but he talks smack better than De Niro. They do like PvP, but again, they do NOT like to lose items they’ve paid for.
A little generalized but I agree with you. As a genX I do not make excuses for my generation and I have to say that genY or the genZ are very interesting to talk to and discuss issues with, even if sometimes I wonder where the hell they went to school.
But I’m not disputing whether a person played a part in someone dying. Of course they did. The issue is whether they were the ONLY factor in such a manner as one could assert they were SOLELY responsible for that death. If anyone or anything else played a part…then that was not the case. I’m not the one having severe difficulties understanding the meaning of ‘solo’…a word derived from the Latin for ‘ALONE’.
I already told you what to do: inject a character to become PvP-viable, and join a high-sec war organization. You will have targets literally everywhere, and you won’t have to wait for them to perform a criminal act just to shoot their disposable Tech I destroyer.
The first time you’ll kill a freighter using a frigate, you’ll understand.
I can’t, because that’s fundamentally untrue. These people quite literally marched in the streets to get GTA removed from store shelves, and created an environment in which “participation medals” are a thing. And maybe it was a bit different where you are, but you also have to understand that I’m judging this first-world Western game by first-world Western social standards.
No one likes to lose items they’ve paid for. The real question is how well various age groups can tolerate it, and in my extensive experience, the oldbergs seem to be able to tolerate it much less despite having considerably more financial security.