The Red Dot thread

If your game got a bad case of red dots, it may be in bad shape. Call the profesional dev for advice.

Heh, more like it’s a sign to CCP that all threads with the same topic need to be locked and hidden away into the deepest darkest corner of the forums, hopefully never to be seen again.

As for this issue, yeah the red dot is really irritating, at the very least it’s an annoyance which doesn’t add anything to improving the quality of the game experience. Just like the damn excessive overpowered glare from the Suns.

The biggest issue here is the lack of an option to opt out of this content. Basically this red dot is just another reminder that this game is no longer a sandbox. Over the years CCP has been steadily turning this game into a scripted theme park by removing player choice.

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I hate the dot. Ive been playing this game on and off since 2006 and this is probably the most infuriating feature youve implemented so far. Its pretty common to allow players to disable tutorial info/help messages when theyre ready, and forcing this on every player regardless of experience level is so needless.
Furthermore, it isnt even accurate. For example, my item hangar is empty and yet I am constantly bombarded with the 7+ new items notification. When I open the hangar and observe that it is in fact empty, sometimes the red dot does not go away. Sometimes it does, but will always return within a few seconds of closing the hangar.

I am about at wits end here; it kills my enjoyment of the game, especially since its so unnecessary for there not to be a toggle. You allowed us to turn off Aura, why not this?

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Long ago in a galaxy far, far away CCP hired a goonswarm member and from that point on the trolling of players in subtle ways has been going on, the red dot was undoubtedly programmed in by that goon, remember it’s not about ruining the game, it’s about ruining it for you as their motto goes.

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i noticed massive performance impacts when handling lots of items with red dots.

After looting a battlefield and having hundreds of marked items, trying to stack or repair them can result in the game freezing for a bit.

It seems the game first goes through all the items to decide what to do when the dot, just before going though another loop to apply the command.

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I understand that you face criticism for the red dot and it has kind of become a joke in the comments of literally every forum post, but I am just asking you guys at CCP to please add an option under the settings menu to turn off the red dot. Thank you, again I am not writing this to bug you guys at CCP but I am asking on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of players that play EVE to please add the option to remove the red dot; I understand that it is a minor annoyance but it really bugs me as I have to hover over each new item in the inventory to get the dot to go away.
Thanks,
Fenderpuddy

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Here at the Spruillo Red dot Research Institute I continue to broaden the field and depth of the extant existing body or research in this fascinating field.

I have given a name to this phenomenon, since one thing in broad consensus is that these red dots are ‘attribute indicators’ of some form, and we largely arrive at the logical question of what attribute they indicate, I therefore now call it Red Dot Indicatory Syndrome, RDIS for short.

I will start with the testing results which seems to be of most interest to our less scientific minded inquirors, the methods I have developed for alleviating them.

The primary method involves switching between red-dot harboring hangars and making a swirling motion around the affected items with your mouse cursor, which seems to remove the RDIS from your items.

Now on to the good stuff:

My theories on what the red dots indicate are being tested and discarded by trial and error. My first couple rounds involved rigorously testing the theories which proposed the attribute indicators meant either:

A: an item could be overheated; or
B: an item could be reprocessed,

I’ve since disproved those ideas as these attributes are true of some, but not all affected items.

For example, an affected module may be overheated, but not an affected bpc.

Research on the issue continues.
One theory gaining traction in the field, is that the dot actually recommends trashing the item, since it consistently affects redeemed log in rewards.

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You may be infringing on the copyrights, patents, and trade secrets of the Aperture Science Laboratories Computer-Aided Enrichment Center.

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its a trap… its to distract you when you un dock and to get killed… 4 hours and still have the dot…

minor red dot bug:

While docked, Asset search for an item, in item hanger.
Keep window open.
Take item from item hanger.
undock.
Red dot appears next to item in asset search window.

(Because Asset Search is not dynamic, for performance reasons, you must click Search again to remove the now-missing item from the search list.)

–Warning!– This is a Constructive Feedback reply and will not contain whining. –Warning!–

FACTS:

  • The notification is useful and necessary for newer players.
  • It is useful in some instances for more seasoned players.
  • Most seasoned players dislike this and find it unnecessary.

SUGGESTION:

  • (considering how in-depth the Overview Settings are) Implement a setting that:

    1. Disables the notification completely
    2. Allows to apply it to a more useful group of items (e.g. certain Price range, Meta Levels…)
    3. Allows sharing of the setting profile
  • Or in tandem with the above, there could be a button in the inventory window which can prompt the notification when requested (like the “Pointer Window”) and notifies according to (again a customizable setting):

    1. items added since last undock
    2. items acquired through market/contracts/trade/deliveries
    3. items crafted through industry

It seems that a recurring issue with player-base (in general across every game) is the will to customize and/or have an input/control over what happens, including notifications. Customization seems to always appease the masses.

I hope the above reaches the Dev Team and is implemented as well as I know they can.

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The red dots are cached on the client side. This means if I use multiple computers for the same account (at work and at home for example), the red dots appear again. This is also true when we undock, where the red dots appear again, and I guess the only good thing about it is that I have something to do when I warp…

While I am not sure how difficult it is to add a “opt out” feature, and I agree that it is simply annoying and doesn’t “seriously” (I say this because I got distracted by a red dot and locked an enemy 0.3 seconds late) affect gameplay, you should add this at least as a sign of goodwill, one that says “we listen to player feedback”.

Your devs play eve now (maybe that’s why, they’re so addicted to their own game that they can’t spare time to change it lol), so they would also tell you the various problems (bugs) and annoyances of the red dot. This is also true in other forms, because one day my hangar was so full with those BPCs I decided not to redeem them anymore, giving me an annoying red dot. The flashing (and the blue dot in the notifications) are a bit better (fits more with color scheme) but still a bit annoying (I know when I accept a mission, or when I buy plex and its balance changes).

So here’s the problem with the red dot: it just doesn’t fit with eve. It is red, which doesn’t fit with the blue color scheme of eve, and it needs immediate attention, which doesn’t fit with the longtermness of eve.

“Helpful to new players” for what? As a new player I never had anything in my hangar and it wasn’t a mess. Making corporation finding better helps new players because they can ask a lot of questions there. CCP helping the eve university pages helps new players because they read them. (speaking of eve university wiki, they decided to remove all of the fittings. someone needs to make an overview of all the modules and theorycrafting 101 for beginners ASAP, because I figured out those modules one by one and it was a pain in the a**)

Someone from CCP (not ISD) should come over and argue with everyone on the forums. At least it shows you’re listening.

(and your words above that)
I think it has something to do with C code, pointers, and stuff like that. It’s still legacy code where adding the red dot is easy but there isn’t a readily made interface for stuff like that so they go “ok who cares no one’s gonna like it anyways”.

How? I know it works in text channels but how everywhere else?

They changed that too, now you have to swing your camera around to make an alt. Maybe it’s anti-botting captcha, fair enough, but still, annoying.


"I changed my mind, I like the red dot now because when you have many items inside the hanger and you buy something then the red dot shows me what I just purchased cause I find I am buying things before i really need them and sometimes I had forgotten what I had just purchased.

Red Dot saved me today, did it save you too?"

-Iceacid Frostpacker


Yeah that. Add a “date added” bar to the inventory or something. Much better idea. It’s also a pain in the a** to find the red dots too, and you don’t get to mass select.

(see? the other thread also has useful stuff you should get into here)

Right click on the main Neocom button at the top. There’s an option to disable all blinking.

For that matter, you can do this on a per-button basis, if there are items you DO want blinking for whatever reason.

I think I left blinking on for mail notifications? That’s… really it.

(Not that I read my mail much, as Archer sadly knows.)

Don’t remind me… I was going to send you more mail but… :broken_heart:

AHHHHH. IT’S SPREADING!!!

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The red dot is going to stay, then we’re all going to get used to it, an increasing number of us will find it helpful, new players won’t know how they could ever have lived without it, and five years from now when CCP announces they’re going to remove it the RAGE WILL BE REAL.

Brisc promised us he’d spearhead the campaign against the red dot and yet…

He had just one job on the CSM, just one job, and he failed.

Weeeeeee…
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There’s also people now who play games using one finger (sometimes two) on a tiny screen. The species is regressing …

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Remember the ‘gong’ they added just in case you weren’t sure you killed something?

Red Dot = Gong. :laughing: :red_circle: :bell: