There are some good people around here

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Thanks for playing Mayhew, but this is the right answer.

Raise your hands above your head; take a deep breath through your nose, and answer the question: can people be good or bad because of what they do in a video game?

Sure…but this isn’t one of those cases. As was noted, this is normal game play in LS. Playing the pirate/outlaw does not make one bad in this game anymore than taking your queen in chess makes me a bad person.

Okay, but the OP and myself seem to disagree with your answer. Whereas you and all the “true” EVE players are asserting that the pirate the OP met did an act that has no moral significance whatsoever, I think the guy is some sort of “bad” for blowing up the OP, and the OP thinks the guy is some sort of “good” because of something else the guy did in game, after blowing up the OP’s ship.

Because content.

You are trying to attach moral significance to an action in a video game that that is normal game play. Donating ISK is not. Would I call it “good”? IDK, but it is outside the norm and on the positive side.

So no, blowing up the ship has no moral significance.

The voice of reason.

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Don’t you think it’s a rather arbitrary distinction to call attacking and destroying someone’s ship “normal gameplay” but Right Click -> Give Money is . . . “good”. What criteria are you using to distinguish them?

This is a game where players compete against each other…and in doing so they often cooperate. But the very name is the giveaway EVE => Everyone vs. Everyone. Still, the idea that players are here to “ruin other players games” is the norm.

The entire design is based around being harsh, vicious, relentless, hostile and cold. It’s about action and reaction, and the story that unfolds as you experience these two things.–CCP Falcon

Pretty sure you know all of this too.

Please explain your good reasons for attacking those pilots.

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Mayhaw is clearly a very disturbed individual…

/sarcasm

CCP told me to do it and I have to obey them if I want to be a good boy.

Hey, aren’t you the guy who tried to shoot my suspect alt who was in a mining ship at the time who did nothing wrong with your pre-aligned Gnosis from 50k away by sending drones and then warped and docked when I made the slightest movement?

Why didn’t you ask me if I want to be shot first? Doesn’t that make you a “bad guy” (in more than one way)?

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Did you have a License?

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YES! I’m a bad guy for attacking your Procurer (and for NOT attacking your Sleipnir, probably).

Finally! I knew you guys would come around.
I am a bad guy for trying to ruin your fun . . . just like you’re bad for trying to ruin other people’s fun. See what you’ve done?

Can somebody buy Mayhaw a sarcasm meter, apparently his sense of sarcasm was surgically removed. :roll_eyes:

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So you warped away to ruin my fun?

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Apparently he is bad in more ways than one.

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^ The first thing he says in the post.

Can we just get CCP’s name out of our mouths? If you don’t like the imposition of moral judgment on your actions in the game, then go play WoW or Call Of Duty.

I’ll ask one more time: If he was such a good guy, why did he destroy the newbie’s ship?

If you think doing things in EVE is neither good nor bad, then your answer defaults to “He’s not a good guy.” That is the only logically consistent answer without moving the goal posts or special pleading.

It was a completely sanctioned™ covert-ops-Procurer™ with a expanded probe launcher instead of mining lasers to do the Saviour’s work and root out bot-aspirant behaviour in the local miner population (which was reduced to 0, 5min before the mentioned incident).

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