There is already a Covid19 Vaccine, What's your opinion about it?

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It’s the goal of widespread vaccination. The end goal is for all of these diseases to be eliminated entirely for the benefit of all of humanity.

And there is another reason why Hitler was brought up. Involuntary medical procedures are literally the stuff of fascists. Good luck finding a decent doctor who will participate in your involuntary vaccination program. Maybe you see if you can find some named Mengele.

Yeah, mandatory vaccination for the good of society is definitely comparable to the Nazi “torture people to see how much torture we can make people suffer” experiments. Do you even think about the utter nonsense you post? Or is your goal just to bring everything to Nazis as fast as possible, no matter what dishonesty it takes?

Their lives AND health are being put at risk.

They really aren’t. The only risk is to shareholder profits. I’ve explained this to you multiple times already.

So you bash me for providing a number I suggest for myself alone, but have no number yourself nor any sort of link or anything at all that provides anything better?

I posted a number, and that number is ZERO. The safety trials are complete. Further delay is tinfoil hat paranoia.

Yeah…experts…right. They never lie or get anything wrong.

Their record on the subject is far better than yours. But at least you’re honest enough to admit that you’re too stupid to listen to the people who spend their entire professional careers building knowledge in the field and put more faith in your own ignorance.

The hell they are. You post a link and numbers and will post a link and numbers that contradict.

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50 people paralyzed and 5 people killed is a small price to pay to save orders of magnitude more lives. It’s unfortunate that there was a manufacturing error, but it is indisputable fact that we are better off having given the vaccine.

The point there was not the incident but how the CDC buries it.

The CDC “buries” it because it’s a one-time manufacturing incident that happened 65 years ago. Its relevance in 2020 is merely a historical footnote of interest to a handful of people at best. I’m sorry if you’re an academic historian writing a paper on the history of industrial quality control practices of the 1950s, but perhaps you should consult primary sources instead of expecting the CDC to write your paper for you?

Believe me, this crap is selectively bred by human hands. The politicians and pharmaceutical companies don’t want you to know that because even YOU, good old expert trusting YOU might start to wake up and learn to mistrust as well.

Well you’ve certainly made a nice descent into raving lunacy.

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But its not the mandate for individual vaccinations like you make it out to be.

Clearly you are ignorant of Nazi medical experiments. So why are you talking?

Zero years for trial? Okay. My mistake. You are more out of your mind than I thought.

Typicially vaccine trials take years. I don’t clearly remember every damn detail in photographic clarity, but since you need others to provide links here I will provide one. This one says 5 to 10 years. Yeah, I know they just hand wave that away after saying it, but screw them.

I never said I ignore them. Pretty stupid of you to act like I do. No. I listen. Unlike you though I don’t just believe every word.

Above my link said 51. God, you pay no attention do you?

You are welcome to view it that way if you want. But wise people know that history repeats itself.

Seems your claim is that mistakes in drug manufacture no longer happen. Is that correct?

Then you tell us how Covid 19 came to be.

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The Nazi “experiments” were just experiments in how much they could torture people. The vast majority of the data is trash because the methods were flawed, and most of what they did doesn’t even have a pretense of being more than torture.

But just keep digging that hole deeper and insisting that Nazi torture experiments are comparable to mandatory vaccines.

Zero years for trial?

Zero years after the trial, FFS. You know, like I said in the sentence next to what you quoted. Stop being dishonest.

since you need others to provide links here I will provide one.

And your own link explains how the trial timeline was accelerated without compromising safety.

Above my link said 51.

If you have to resort to nitpicking that it was 51 paralyzed and not 50 then you’ve certainly done a good job of demonstrating your own dishonesty.

Seems your claim is that mistakes in drug manufacture no longer happen. Is that correct?

I made no such claim. I simply explained why an incident from 65 years ago is not given any prominence by the CDC. Please do not build straw man arguments.

Then you tell us how Covid 19 came to be.

Natural evolution from previous viruses. We may not know the details, but “it was made by humans to sell vaccines” is raving lunacy.

(Technically I believe the “Chinese bioweapons lab” theory is still not disproved, but if it is ever found to be true every US politician is going to be screaming about it for their own benefit.)

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This really takes the cake. The CDC itself says nothing of the sort. Why not? Why not just say it if that’s the truth?

Well if it is or isn’t its pretty damn clear the CDC does NOT value giving us straight information. Yet there you are insisting we trust the CDC as if they do.

You were speaking of raving lunacy earlier.

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Ok. Done. I never said that or anything close to it.

You refuse to be honest in this discussion and are just making crap up as you go along.

I have had enough. Bye.

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So now, having exhausted the “YOUR A NAZI LOL” approach, you’ve decided to settle for the dramatic exit. Goodbye, you and your tinfoil hat paranoia about vaccines will not be missed. I just hope that your covidiocy doesn’t get anyone else hurt or killed.

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Health Care workers are refusing the vaccine and some at least feel hesitant.

Interesting isn’t it? These are the people for whom all this stuff is everyday, and they refuse or hesitate. Yeah.

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They can’t get it if they want a child in 2 years,
so, have to quit their job and get another job until then for it.

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But I suppose you’re just following the trend of dramatic exits followed immediately by returning to the discussion and proving that the “exit” was just an argument strategy.

Interesting isn’t it?

Not really. People are stupid, and there are a lot of healthcare workers who don’t have the knowledge to make an informed decision. Is it really surprising that 40% of health care workers would reject a vaccine in the same country where almost 50% of the population voted twice for Trump?

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Please stop replying to me. Please don’t quote me anymore.

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Sorry I was not clear the first time. I thought I was clear enough the second time. No? Not talking the subject matter with YOU anymore.

At last we have something we can agree on! Hardly matters what side of a divide people are on either, they are generally there for stupid reasons.

It would be nice…if for once in your life…you could have the humility to admit you made a mistake. If what you said were true then Biden would have gotten only about 16 percent and Clinton 10 percent. This is because U.S. voter turnout is rather low, about 66 percent in 2020 and 60 percent in 2016.

And I want to say so much more but that would be getting into politics. I will just say that a choice between two old and rich White and horrifically similar people for leader is no more legitimate a choice than having only Coke and Pepsi as a drink choice … no tea, no water, no milk, no beer, no wine and no juice. Its not a choice. Its a joke. And seeing the joke, many people voted as if it were a joke, especially the first time.

And while this may touch on Covid 19 a bit, considering the above and so much more, is it any wonder people have so very little faith in the “authorities” and “experts”? I don’t think its such a mystery. I mean people are stupid but not enough of them are quite stupid enough to fail to see our “leaders” for anything but the shams they are.

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I can also quote others and reply to them too, it’s not only one person in specific.

Especially not when they try to attack my ability to procreate,
and then, try to create yet, another communication gap,
which they then try to justify on top of the harassment and abuse,
to create miscommunication, to try to create misunderstanding,
and disregard, and to attack.

Right, I report to and work with Interpol on that for my family’s safety,
and do fact-finding about how they try to justify those attacks
and communication gaps, and seek to associate with others,
to diminish their moral values, and seek to engage in moral conflicts,
they seek to justify to cause to me and my family.

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Also, some people may react stronger to it,
like people of certain genes,
until vaccines designed for their genes can be found.

It’s possible those vaccines were tested on different genes which do not respond the same.

There are over 20% adverse reactions,
and, the rate of success is much higher than that in general.
That is because of the test on the success subject,
and , their interpretation of success.

Creating and seeking to create communication gap to perpetrate warfare isn’t going to get any authorities very far,
and yes,
international authorities also monitor intent to get people in organized crimes,
or terrorism, whether from electronic warfare,
such as from messaging systems, or, other forms of systems,
such as information systems from the courts.

In fact, it’s not even legal to try, even if it is not what they do, and seek to do.
It’s still illegal to divert after the fact, to try to help to cover and refuse to accept evidence of attacks or fraud, or other evil misinterpretation,
intended to justify wrongdoing against international law,
to seek to achieve common grounds,
and create muted conflicts, based on false mutual benefit,
which I am also in courts against the misrepresentation of,
which benefit is also sought to attacked, and, attacks against, covered up.

I do have to provide my family security and, working with Interpol,
it’s not going to happen in ways illegal, in illegal ways.

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To try to create lack of knowledge and understanding to hide creation of misunderstanding as conflict isn’t going to solve the problem,
or, explain the intentions to hide it,
and the intent to find wrongdoings and to justify other sought wrongdoings,
so as to seek to forfeit the evidence from.

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You are the one who has to stop attacking me and misrepresenting me and people in acts of war against them, and asking me to hide you when I am already against those actions in courts, whoever it is that associates with it.

The more the merrier.

Just because they are stupid and seek to make more people stupid against military medical systems doesn’t mean their mental conditions and limitations from tests are not worse.

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Be careful what you wish for, you might get it if you didn’t already get it.

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I also do register patents for it, and no,
you ain’t getting intellectual property for it,
due to slander and abuse,
against me,
and inciting into wrongdoing,
if not seeking to be trying to get authorities to coerce me into it.

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I’m also going to Europe because of those attacks against me by the way.
My marriage isn’t going to be with the local authorities,
it’s another global system instead, with the army as well.

I don’t have to subject my wife to misinterpretation and intended misinterpretations in regards to our marriage, such as association with attackers misinterpreted as if we couldn’t defend ourselves and use it against them due to their intent to misrepresent and seek to help by misinterpretation and cover up misinterpretation they try to suggest onto others as they will have done to them due to their own actions towards others.

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