This is why ganked freighter pilots deserve zero sympathy

A freighter is locked within 1 tick regardless of scan res.

A webber can have lag, which happens regularly to me and which makes the locking process get stuck in the last split second for up to 3 seconds. Even without lag, the ideal scenario is still 5 ticks.

How am I supposed to get to my webber client? 2 monitors? Which means moving the mouse over to the other screen across 2 monitors? That surely takes less time than alt tabbing with the mouse cursor placed where my watch list is. :thinking:

I am the only one on their overview as well because they have overviews that only show freighters. :roll_eyes:

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a freighter is not locked in one tick regardless 523mm takes 1.11 seconds to lock a 10k sig

almost like a second machine would work. should look into friends.

this is why i said harder. don’t jump unless you are jumping with another freighter.

To use a MWD to speed up the entry to warp you:

  1. click ‘warp to’ (or ‘jump’) to start the aligning process
  2. immediately after, you activate your MWD and then immediately deactivate it
  3. the MWD will run its full cycle, that is 10s, and at the end of this cycle shut off reducing your max speed, and your ship will immediately enter warp

This only works of course if you are not pointed or bumped out of alignment, or hit another object.

I could explain the reasons why this works (and is related to the reasons you can web a freighter into warp), but it is covered in this Eve Uni article:

https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Advanced_piloting_techniques#Speed_and_Alignment_tricks

:thinking: 2 computers for webbing? Please give me your meds, I want to experience these trips, too.

Of course, I will just hang out in a system and wait for other freighters to come by. Because I have nothing better to do. :roll_eyes:

you seemed to miss a key part there

you only have to do it if there is a camp on the other side… and its not like it takes long for freighters to pass by on the gates that are camped

No, I do not see any point at all in this lunacy.

Ah, yes, the famous 3rd account. Great stuff.

One way or another, though, what you suggest does not work as you believe it does. :wink:

you heard it hear folks another freighter pilot convinced friends are lunacy

i mean… because you can’t scout with the web…

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A friend makes all the difference, of course. Because that friend is not subject to lag and it reduces the tick count maybe by 1 if you are really lucky, or increases the count because of not paying attention. Not to mention that escorting a freighter is such a fulfilling and enjoyable task. Good idea. Goes to show that you have very little insight into webbing.

If I scout with the webber, the freigther is in warp to the gate while the webber waits on the gate. Or do you maybe suggest I web the freigther to a station or citadel first? What a great idea, I have nothing better to do with my time. :+1:

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… it literally puts him in the same position as the blackbird only he actually has a one tick lock

what? web the freighter to the gate. warp the webber jump the webber see if its clear if not don’t jump the freighter.

That’s where you are wrong.

And then what? Your freigther sits on the other side and if the webber finds something nasty on the other side, the freighter takes ages to warp off because jumping the webber back and insta webbing is not possible because of the freigther’s movement vector from the previous warp.

… a slow align time in that situation is irrelevant.

how exactly…

Yes, it is because by following your suggestion I just trapped myself and a bumper can easily pick me off. Thank you.

Because that friend is most likely in the same geographical location as I am and thus has the same potential lag issue as my alt. Just as one example.

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… that’s not how that works

how exactly? also you need to have a ping of over 500 to see any lag with how eves ticks work

Tell that my webber alt who regularly keeps locking my freigther for 3 seconds, and in other instances for only 1 second.

then you have a ping of well over 500…

and you still haven’t explained why your friend would be more likely to be geographically close to you

My ping hovers around 30-40 ms.

Because they are a friend? Or do you think I would let a random numpty in my corp web me?

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then you are not getting server lag… that’s how ticks work so long as you can send and receive the packet in under a second you have no lag.

you still haven’t explained how that equates to them being near you geographically.

That’s how they generally work, but my experience with lag on my webber speaks conclusive, factual evidence against your assertions.

You are one to talk about “closed mindedness”. :rofl:

Regardless of closed-mindedness, I am not going to expose a “friend” to the joys of freightering because it is an utterly unrewarding, unenjoyable under normal circumstances, and a devastating activity if something goes wrong. And since a friend cannot significantly or at all improve the above described and proved procedure of webbing, there is no need for it anyway.

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that’s exactly how ticks work…

that’s a pretty closed minded attitude you have there