You are literally choosing to play an open world PvP game.
Maybe go play another game.
No. It wasn’t, you can do more now than you could in 2005. There are limitations of the game engine, clearly you can’t do anything you want.
Citation required for made up statistic.
Under what definition of PvP can you ever claim that EVE is not an open world PvP game?
I mean, seriously, any sane definition I’ve heard that statement is true, so I’m wondering exactly what definition you think exists that makes the open world statement need defining.
This isn’t some kind of argument over if mining is PvP.
So, once again you lobby for literally going AFK and passively accumulating wealth while you are gone. Why are you so stubbornly insistent that EVE must include bot-like “play styles”?
A sandbox would make EVERYTHING possible
And yet you argue for the complete removal of highsec PvP. Shouldn’t everything be possible, including killing you in highsec with no CONCORD intervention?
it has EFFECTIVELY scared away 90% of all non pvp’ers…
{citation needed}
You keep saying this but the numbers don’t back up your claim.
All you hear is 'i have quitted and are just playing ‘til the sub runs out’ and stuff like this…
IOW, “I’m still playing the game but I want to make a big dramatic show of being unhappy without making any real sacrifice”. I bet most of them resubscribe within a few weeks of going alpha, since if they really intended to quit they’d quit and not “keep playing till the sub runs out”.
So all we have to do is finding a way to shut them up and CCP will return to a sane game developement…is it that what you are saying?
You do understand that since day one of development CCP has intended for EVE to be a PvP-focused game, right?
I just came back to the game. Wanting to experience some casual spaceship stuff, maybe run a few missions or mining. Luckily, some old corp mates warned me about the invasion stuff and told me to be careful. So I went to my old Level 4 Mission System, Venilen and checked it out. Luckily, they at least left me a way to recover my Ships from there:
You probably know that Level 4 Missions send you 1-2 Jumps out for most of them. In this case, most Missions from the Level 4 Agent in Venilen tend to happen in Kaunokka, Kulelen and Oshaima.
Hmm, and my mining Ships and Equipment is in Piekura. Lets see how that turned out:
Shooting Edencom also does not look like a good idea, because I need to travel through some of their Systems, like Bei. So, for me, my best bets are to just move elsewhere with no invasions around, be thankful that I could recover my Marauder and avoid the Invasion content like a plaque. I find it weird though with how many Caldari Systems are invaded compared to all the other factions. You know, there is an Amarr Mining Station deep in Caldari territory that offers Level 3 and Level 4 Mission Agents, and there is not a single invaded System around.
Yes…
Your freedom ends where you disturb the freedom of others
Talk to people ingame…
Citation needed…
Again your PVP freedom ends where you disturb others…
Unconcealed and forced upon one side pvp is a no go.
Bottom line…
Period…
And beside that combat is not the only way of pvp,but CCP even makes other pvp approaches like market pvp nearly impossible due to those crappy decision and ONLY focuses on combat…which GREATLY contradicts even the widest defined definition of a sandbox.
What CCP is trying to do with this game is to pervert it and convert it into a pure arena combat game with no other approach than that…
And THIS is bad…really really bad…
At least you’re honest enough that your ideal version of EVE is a bunch of bots sitting in a PvE site while their owners check once a day to see how big their wallet numbers are.
Your freedom ends where you disturb the freedom of others
Nope. That’s not how a PvP game works.
Talk to people ingame…
Why would I talk to people when I can use the indisputable hard data on active players? We have not seen the decline that you have predicted.
Citation needed…
The citation is common sense. If you dislike something enough to quit then you’re going to quit, not hang around and keep doing the thing while loudly informing everyone that someday you’re going to quit. If you keep doing the thing you aren’t quitting, you’re just using a threat to quit as an argument tool.
market pvp nearly impossible
Market PvP is not impossible. You’re just bad at EVE and incapable of anything but obsessive 0.01 ISK adjustments.
Removed some off topic posts.
Your freedom ends where you disturb the freedom of others.
Lol nope, for some freedom ends at optimal + 2X falloff; for others it starts there.
Maps seem cool. Where did you get them?
I posted a similar topic about the Triglavian Invasions and my post was “Hidden” because it was offensive and reported by a number of people. I simply gave reasons why the content was killing the EVE Community and gave suggestions on reducing the invasion difficulty or making it less aggressive in some way.
Of course the backlash was high and everyone posting suggested its best to simply uninstall EVE Online, so that is what I did and I personally wouldn’t suggest this game to any newer crowd. I seriously want to see this game die out so everyone can look back on “The Good Ol-Days” of EVE and wonder what went wrong lol.
People have been saying Eve has been dead for a decade.
For me, freedom started at warp core strength +3
They were flipped to triglavian side by players who mercilessly exploited the fact the CCP made Caldari NPCs lose by default with Trig NPCs when in encounters on their own. That is main reason trigs have so many liminalities in caldari space, it happened and is still happening.
You forget to mention the fact that the Amarr Rats were so overpowered, that they could flip a system in 6h without any player killing even one NPC on each side.
Scope of my reply was restricted to the particular issue mentioned in Caldari space. Situation is different in Amarr space, but you can blame only CCP for their NPC design.
It still is an important fact to know when you tell people about the trig invasions.
While Caldari were easy to conquer, it was almost pointless to go to Amarr Space
Now that I think about it, that might have been intentional. Maybe CCP is trying to do something about the fact that like half of high-sec’s population lives within 5 jumps of Jita. Maybe their logic is that if they make it a less attractive place to live in, players might spread out a bit more. I personally think that would be a good thing. Gallente space is alright, but all of Minmatar space and most Amarr space are ghost towns.
They may want players to produce bulk of items everywhere more locally by making logistics to be a difficult thing reserved for exotics.
Gimping the established players, flattening the field for everybody in industry, adding more microtransactions. Everything at the same time.
The old eve when you could find a very profitable thing and make it a source of mega richness is over. If you hold that niche in game, it will be nerfed to redistribute ISK more equally toward grinders.
ISK/h everywhere being equalized in future. Even Null!
