Understanding and Dealing with Ganks and Gankers

[Aiko_Danuja]

Oh, that would explain why it appears Renly Ridley is just lashing out randomly.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

I didn’t catch where DMC would fit in, but that’s just me The others I don’t know well enough.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

He’s on record saying that non-consensual PvP needs to be removed from the game. There are a few other regulars who think that way too, but I’m not going to make a detailed list (might be against forum rules).

DMC clarified that he’s not against non-consensual PvP in posts below.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

That may be true. But he’s done more for the game than I have. Can you say the same?
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[Destiny_Corrupted]

Just because someone does useful things, doesn’t mean that they’re precluded from doing bad things or holding damaging beliefs. Plenty of tyrants have built roads and hospitals for their countries.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

Unfortunately very true.

I’m for ganking myself, so I guess I’m just as guilty?

But neither of us seem to practice it anymore. A guess on my part about him.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

@DeMichael_Crimson

And also no, that miserable little punkass of a pubie can’t say anything like that. Unless you count lying and constantly spewing toxic waste all over these forums…

But how am I any better?

Trust me, I have my own agenda just like everyone else. I like you both. That being said does not mean I have to agree with all either of you say. I just respect the different points of view. How else could I learn?

Hate each other if you must. But don’t let it get the better of either of you for the betterment of the game.

CCP needs all our help, whether we like each other or not.

Gawd, at least nether of you are Ridley’s.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

Nah, I straight-up asked you some time ago if your desire is to remove non-consensual PvP from the game, and your response was along the lines of “yes, so what of it?” I did a search, but can’t find it, mainly because something like 95% of our interactions get deleted (like for example your reply above would be if a mod notices it).

Would you like to go on record saying that you do not want non-consensual PvP to be removed from the game? That would certainly clear some things up.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@MB_ThePhotographer

Hate each other if you must. But don’t let it get the better of either of you for the betterment of the game.

Here’s the thing: I don’t hate anyone. That doesn’t mean I would call everyone a friend, but I definitely don’t hate people.

@MB_ThePhotographer

CCP needs all our help, whether we like each other or not.

CCP might be beyond help at this point.

[Ridley_Rohan]

@Destiny_Corrupted

because something like 95% of our interactions get deleted

Because you lack the sense to post on-topic in the appropriate effing threads.

Wake the hell up.

Regardless, who the hell believes you got anybody else’s story straight? You directly accuse people of saying things they didn’t even immediately AFTER they posted their opinion on the matter.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Ridley_Rohan

You directly accuse people of saying things they didn’t even immediately AFTER they posted their opinion on the matter.

Such as?

[MB_ThePhotographer]

@Destiny_Corrupted

CCP might be beyond help at this point.

Any more Ridley’s in game and might just be true…

[DeMichael_Crimson]

@Destiny_Corrupted

I straight-up asked you some time ago if your desire is to remove non-consensual PvP from the game, and your response was along the lines of “yes, so what of it?” I did a search, but can’t find it

Because it only happened in your dreams.

Also just for the record, non-consensual PvP can happen anywhere in Eve. What’s funny is how you constantly keep trying to make that phrase pertain to just High Sec Suicide ganking which is completely different compared to attacking another ship in Low Sec, Null Sec or W-hole space.

[Ridley_Rohan]

@Destiny_Corrupted

Such as?

Such as when I said in the middle of this thread that you take things personally you say:

@Destiny_Corrupted

Don’t post on public forums if you don’t want to deal with disagreement.

Others in this thread have expressed disagreement and I gave them likes or courteous replies. Its all here. There is something seriously wrong with you. I don’t claim to know what it is, I just wish you could find the right thread for it.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

@DeMichael_Crimson

High Sec Suicide ganking which is completely different compared to attacking another ship in Low Sec, Null Sec or W-hole space.

There is a big difference to me at least.

[Ridley_Rohan]

@DeMichael_Crimson

What’s funny is how you constantly keep trying to make that phrase pertain to just High Sec Suicide ganking which is completely different compared to attacking another ship in Low Sec, Null Sec or W-hole space.

Yup. On the postive side though she reminded me to add that screed to my third post here on other points…its point g.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@DeMichael_Crimson

Also just for the record, non-consensual PvP can happen anywhere in Eve. What’s funny is how you constantly keep trying to make that phrase pertain to just High Sec Suicide ganking which is completely different compared to attacking another ship in Low Sec, Null Sec or W-hole space.

The zeitgeist of the game doesn’t treat any sort of player conflict in lawless areas of space as “non-consensual PvP.” Doing so would essentially mean that all PvP is “non-consensual” because no one goes out into space with the express goal of losing their ship (with a few very specific exceptions, like suicide-ganking, or going on a suicide roam). Do you think that parties to a fleet battle in null-sec would hit the “I consent” button with regard to losing their capital ships, if they could have the option of opting out? People rarely volunteer their own destruction.

No, non-consensual PvP is generally a concept only where people have the assumption/illusion of guaranteed safety.

[Ridley_Rohan]

@Destiny_Corrupted

Doing so would essentially mean that all PvP is “non-consensual” because no one goes out into space with the express goal of losing their ship (with a few very specific exceptions, like suicide-ganking,

Wow. Now she says PVP is automatic lost ships. Holy deficiency Batman.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

He/She/It is a liar and a troll, constantly posting insulting innuendos just to trigger a forum flame war.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

@Destiny_Corrupted

non-consensual PvP is generally a concept only where people have the assumption/illusion of guaranteed safety.

I still have to agree with this. Just cause I don’t do it anymore does not make me less guilty when I did.