Warzone extraction info/thread

You are are nice guy, but you fell for the baits here giving away a lot of intel to us about the sites which should have kept vague/secret :wink:

I like the event so far, because it needs effort, and has a very valuable loot thingy to hunt for (please keep the drop rate). The bad parts are the quartermaster mechanic* (it does not add something) and the lack of solo PvP options (due to the oppressive NPCs).

EDIT: * the better option would be, players have to collect these things (as much as possible) and can exchange it later for some tiered reward depending how many you collected.

Well, that actually allows people to easily farm those sites for relics.
You just need to have one relic before entering the site. Put the relic into the quartermaster, and then warp inside, as said above nothing more will spawn so you can safely proceed to get the 1-2 relic inside. Rinse and repeat.

So I tried one solo before down time and decided to risk the Gila.

Dropped my ab for a large pb acid cap battery, 3 large shield extenders ii, 2 adaptive invuln ii’s, hammer headii, and dda ii’s.

Better than I expected but I only got 2 waves done in one hour because I had 1 battleship spawn in wave 1, and 2 battleships spawn in wave 2.
Cap battery doesnt help at all.
Takes the drain down to 156 which is better. But I’m still capped out rather quickly but good news is against two battleships with perma neuts of 312gj the passive tank will hold at around 70 % even while webbed. Would not want to try it against three though.

For an hour’s work and maybe 8 spawns in each wave I got one accelerator which I consumed, and maybe 16m in blue loot and agency boosters.

-complaints.
At 560ish DPS the battleships take at least 5 minutes to kill a piece
-cap battery doesnt help against the neuts unless there’s only one ship (cap was able to regen in between neut cycles enough to power an invuln which is around 30/3600 total cap.
-loot is terrible and not worth the time. I don’t mean to be hyperbolic whne I use the word literally but I literally make more money belt ratting and doing relic sites, (anoms are too boring for my taste)
-no skins so far or … Interesting loot except the accelerator but that only lasts 44 hours. Hopefully I find more.
-without propulsion and multi webs it takes forever to get to another wreck to trigger a wave. You should be able to trigger them remotely or move them closer I guess so I don’t have to spend 3 minutes slow boating across the site at 200m/s

Still prefer the rogue swarm event.
In the same time period I find and do 10 swarm sites in highsec, get an accelerator per hour, plus guaranteed skins and the joke worthy Plex drops) in 0.0 i might only see a few because I’ve got people in Corp running these as well and the money’s just not worth it but Its nice to having something different to do.
In the first three days of rogue swarm I did 200+ sites and got my grind itch scratched. Lots of accels for my training, lots of skins and a full kador set for my ships I injected. 8/10 event I was able to get two weeks of accelerators and spares to sell on market in a few nights of play. I don’t see myself getting more than 3-4 for the duration of the event which is dissapointing

For this… Mmm id bump it to a 3/10. It’s a pain, there’s still no money in it, and it’s risky and time consuming. More of a drag than having fun. But I like the experience against drifters outside of a wormhole.

A Gila with tech 2 purger rigs and t2 passive tank will definitely hold against two battleships but it’s gonna be a while before you go anywhere cause they take forever to kill so be wary. You’re dead in the water for a while.
Idk if if would survive three battleships at once but it will 100% hold against a max wave of 8 ships where 2 are battleships. I’d bet my account on it, if you’re intimidated by drifters a Gila will hold against at least two battleships indefinitely on HP regen alone without any resistances.

Side note: @CCP_Dragon whom’s call would it be to scrap agency then? If it’s not your call I’ve been unfairly harsh towards you in Corp comms and id like apologize to you for that but who I should be blaming.

I still don’t understand the spawn mechanics. Is it random?
I’m either getting nothing, a wave of battleships which are a pain, or the can with the relic. I’m not seeing any frigate only waves. I’ve been doing these as they pop up in groups to burst the battleships down but there doesn’t seem to be any variation in response. It’s battleships all the time and not much for drops.
I don’t understand how people are claiming hundreds of millions in one site.

I have found the Sleeper ships never switch aggro. I have made a post about it, but on the general PvE Forum.

I’m still exploring some of the functionality of this site distribution system. I was testing some different settings for Low Sec this time around and it is doing a very even distribution.

I don’t mind the info I’ve given away. Some things are important to clarify so we don’t report bugs that aren’t actually bugs.

Of course, the true goal would be that there are zero bugs to begin with, but I’m not there yet. I can be a lot more vague and misleading when things are fully functional.

We’ve been brainstorming for future events and this is a possibility that came up.

Creative solution to the puzzle. Which again leads me to want to remove the relic from your cargo if you leave the site.

I shall not push anyone under the bus. My directive has been to improve on it. Your reasoning behind scrapping is still welcome. Primarily because I would like to know how to improve on the Agency and the people that dislike it will help us find ways to improve it. Can make everyone happy, but improvements will continue. I would like to see your opinion after the current round of changes makes it to Tranquility.

Interesting. Thanks!

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I see, so how do you get credit for “completing” a site? Do you have to be the one that turns in the relic or you can be anyone in the site?

EDIT: Maybe a better solution to this problem is to redesign this item into some kind of gate key that is required for the next room.

So there was a problem with even distribution for lowsec?

I like you! Thanks for being brave and honest enough to stick yourself into the fire of the forums to answer our concerns directly. Just by doing that in a timely manner makes you a huge asset to all of EVE. Keep the lines of communication open, keep explaining what you have to work with and restrictions of your job, actually listening to what the players say, and most importantly, keep being honest with us!

…course maintaining a sense of humor through all this will also lower your weekly bar bill. :grin:

@M’aree Jayne they do it just takes a while, I sat for 5-10 minutes and they only switched off me for a few seconds where i could warp out.

@rosmov aulmais
No you can be in fleet with someone too. Corpmate takes gate back and turns one in and I got point for being part of it. Not sure what happens if you aren’t in fleet.

Ok… So we got these new shiny player Concord ships that got some stats based on player security status.

How about… When you give relic to quartermaster you get a sec status bump?
Or standings bump to Concord?, LP?
There is a gazillion ways to reward players beside giving ISK.

That way it would be some real value in the relic. The only value it got now is to complete a site without entering it, whatever that is worth.

When I completed my first site, I actually did it with the help of another player that was not in a fleet with me. He said he got the relic, so I took the gate in the site, which warped me to the quartermaster that is waiting. When the guy took the gate too, he delivered the relic. I was just sitting there next to the quartermaster and the site was completed for me too, the Agency gave me the points and the challenge was counting as complete.

So this gives some great opportunity to come and aid other players and still complete the site for the agency challenge points, you just need to be at the same place where the quartermaster is.

Not sure what happens if you are inside the site and someone delivers the relic to the quartermaster.

I have a few critics on The Agency. None of this should be a surprise as it mirrors many sentiments previously expressed by others.

Rewards have been severely lacking.

Thanks to the accelerators I’m going to bet that Warzone Extraction is going to see the highest intentional participation. However I see that certain milestones award a crate that yields a random booster. In your copious spare time go look around other games and see what kind of reception “gamble boxes” are. (spoiler: loathed)

Rewards have niche appeal.

What do you do with a Tengu SKIN if you don’t fly a Tengu and have no intention of ever flying a Tengu? No clue how that particular SKIN is or has done in the market but I can’t imagine it being worth all that much if enough people are trying to dump it.

The best way to avoid niche awards is to let the player choose. Instead of fixed or ($deity help us) randomized milestone awards give the players LP and offer a variety of SKINs, boosters, accelerators, etc… The players get what they want while you guys get a badly needed isk sink.

Stop being up in our faces.

The giant panel on the character select page just screeches desperation. You already have a marker on the Neocom and task list. People interested in running it know how to get the info they need. Conversely the obnoxious panel is very irritating to those that aren’t interested or unable to participate.

Welp, I was wrong. Let me correct that:

SKINs and the Jackets are rare and only dropped off one type of Sleeper.

Um, not really. I was just testing out some different settings for distributing sites. The test is showing that Low sec tends to keep a more even distribution across systems.

Yeah, we’re looking at more rewards coming up. It’s a gradual thing where I keep learning all the content systems and how they work. I think I’ll first practice with what I’ve got so far for a little bit.

The sukkevesta is probably the best item they’ve given. As far as I know there are sell orders in jita for 140 a week or two ago. Dunno what it’s at now.

The value is good, the skin itself is just kinda lame. It’s s palette swap of the normal tengu skin to be slightly darker tealish in color.

Also forgot to mention if I haven’t already. Caps can go through the gate. So can super caps. For those interested

Aha, it’s now trending around 93M sell/ 76M buy.

Not terrible but more money could be made in HS for the same amount of effort with less investment in SP and isk. If you managed to complete the event early you could flip it for ~300M then dropped to ~240M in the 2nd week. A day or two after the event ended the median price dropped to 120-130M.

Any one got a jacket /Skin from ths event. I ahve run about 15 or so so far killing all sleepers and I got 5 Accelorators but nothing else of note.

I have not but I looked it up and it’s just an ugly gold outlaw jacket.
More palette swap stuff. Nothing interesting.

I’m guessing the skins are the valkyries skins off the uh store

1/3 site dropped accelerator… That’s pretty good compared to my 1/12 or so. What security is this?