Can you please explain what he’s talking about?
I’m not getting it for some reason.
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It’s propaganda.
I still don’t understand.
What’s the point?
Of course many idiots will, mostly thanks to this nice piece of propaganda,
be totally willing to “die for their country”. (i’m sure I’ve heard that one before, btw)
“Others are doing it and I’ll do my part!”
I still don’t understand, though.
What does it have to do with a vaccine?
Why would anyone even consider that there is a choice when there really is none?
Why does a decision have to be made in the first place?
The greatest gift you can make is to give your life for those you love.
It’s unfortunately not based or limited to those you like, to backstab them, and defeat them.
Just because some people try to express hatred towards someone , which conditions to justify the hatred, they created themselves, by creating communication gap, relying on inaccurate facts, and paying the wrong people, doesn’t mean they are giving the best gift.
It could be they are wrong, and dead wrong.
That peson towards which the unfounded hatred is targeted, directed and caused to, may well see to it that the service was not given in good faith, so that others won’t have to suffer the same fate, due to the bad faith of those causing the problems, and trying to interfere against the benefit of the greatest gifts, while stating their lack of understanding is the ground to justify their intentions.
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Okay, the rich and the powerful don’t want to lose their wealth and power. The problem is that social distancing to stop the spread of the corona virus is having significant ramifications for the economy. This, of course, affects pretty much everyone, but also the wealthy. Moreover, the reelection chances of some politicians is dependent to various extents upon the health of the economy. Thus, politicians and news media of a certain political persuasion simultaneously started pushing certain narratives, such as: (1) The Corona Virus is a hoax, (2) The Corona virus isn’t as bad as people think, (3) The best way to solve the problem is through a vaccine and not social distancing, and (4) In order to save the country and the economy, we need to stop social distancing, which might result in old people dying, but that’s okay because they are willing to die for their country and their grandchildren.
Anyway, I have STRONG opinions on this matter, so it is taking considerable effort not to go into full rant mode. So, I think I’m going to check out of this topic.
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How?
Why?
What evidence do we have it was not just what they are trying to do while lying about it?
Like, yet another diversion, to try to get away with it, even though it’s obvious it will be used against them for trying even if and when they fail.
Reading the second part, I can’t fail to see the timing of other events, related to so called economy.
2ndly, what are the goals of the criminals suspects arrested in regards to this virus case propagation.?
I know it is not like propagation of intelligence, but propagation of physiological agents.
Unfortunately for me, I don’t have strong opinions on this matter, because my family name is from the US Army medical department.
It’s more insulting.
Like, what’s the part that a judge is getting off on thinking his civilian decisions have no relation to military?
Of course, he may have no authority over it, but I can see why.
Sorry, but you are making the claim so you need to provide the evidence; not the other way around.
To anyone out there that thinks this is a hoax or any other fictional conspiratorial nonsense, sorry but you’re an idiot and your opinion no longer matters. Get bent.
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Are you trying to take my words out of context?
Who do you mean is making which claim, in the accusative tense.?
Additionally, even the most intelligent people or group or person in history is no more stupid or idiot than they are, even if everyone else is worse, unless you spend more resources to make it worse.
Someone mentioned :
The problem is that social distancing to stop the spread of the corona virus is having significant ramifications for the economy.
How does social distancing to stop the spread of the corona virus, and, rather than be anti-social by distancing, or, trying to make activity to be social, and use the term social to be something acceptable, regardless of what it is, or use the term as a dog-whistle, such as physical distancing, while not misinterpreting physical distancing as anti-social, as if it would have been ok before to consider it anti-social,
when it is in fact a legal obligation, and could be liable of fines and prison in severe cases,
how does that prove significant ramifications for the society, other than that it is used to call people idiots for falling into their traps, on top of it.??
(1) The Corona Virus is a hoax, (2) The Corona virus isn’t as bad as people think
(1) it’s a criminal hoax and they are in jail for that.
There are in fact many others cases not tried for due to it , and will likely be indictments from other countries.
(2) it’s not as bad as people think, it’s worst.
(3) The best way to solve the problem is through a vaccine and not social distancing,
(3) no, but physical distancing helps to minimize overload of health care which is already overloaded.
Can it be worst than 100% infected? Yes, 200% to 1,000% worst.
and (4) In order to save the country and the economy, we need to stop social distancing, which might result in old people dying, but that’s okay because they are willing to die for their country and their grandchildren.
(4) Not all old people would die, as some are not having adverse reaction to it, yet.
That may change in subsequent strains, and, spreads.
How would it save the economy to stop social distancing, and how would needing to stop social distancing save the economy?
How would it save your statement?
Why are you not willing to die and how?
As for alternative solution to the health problem, they are working on it.
They are testing critical cases with medication, and vaccination may prevent future spread and strains.
Vaccines do not respond to current cases.
Why are you not willing to die and how?
This reminds me of,
How to Win Friends and Influence People .
If you’re willing to die for those you love, you can influence them,
and you can win them as friends if you influence them right.
They should gather Chinese intelligence to solve the problem, and deal with their doctors , more.
Not only that, but China is almost the same size as the US, just a bit larger, and they have 3 times more people, or 4.
So, logically, the socially required and acceptable physical distancing is more important there.
How did they do it, and how to best apply it to us, to save us the time and efforts, and, prevent death, and lower abnormal superfluous death rate.?
Why is it worst in the US for some factor.
I mean, certain place have greater death rate, and different recovery ratio.
Why did China really solve the problem?
Was it really because of their great response, or, isn’t there some kind of antidote?
Why are we not able to achieve this?
To what extent are we able to apply what they did, and why would fail, and how?
To what extent would it fail, and which other solution do we need?
I just read about political systems being different as a reason, however, how will that solve the problem?
As for the definition of Hoax, I’m sure I can find at least as many definitions for hoax as you or anyone can create any hoax, to use as diversion, or other form of misleading.
If it was done, for real, and not as a lie, which some people making hoax that hoax are lies would make, to hoax people into being adversely attacked , it would be a 2nd kind of hoax.
As for not believing in it because it is a hoax, that in itself is a hoax, because it is real , and it can be the worst attack in history.
You’re not going to solve the problem if you keep people quarantined who should go to work, without spreading it, using preventive measures.
It’s no use to make it worst by keeping people unable to provide their needs.
A secondary risk with this contagion is that there is little margin for error.
If you send people out , and they spread the contagion because they don’t take precaution to prevent themselves from spreading it, or contracting it from those who spread without precaution, it can create more cases, and more deaths.
If not enough people provide what they need, they would have to rely on other countries, and that is also not something we need to do.
I don’t feel like surrendering to China to come clean up, and they’d be darned to offer something like that to the US.
Yup, that’s the one.
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Ah, so you are of the belief that if people post more about the virus in more than one place that the virus will spread.
SARS-CoV-2 will continue to spread and infect and kill people until a vaccine is developed. Social distancing will help. But only in the short term.
Social distancing helps, however, prevention and potentially, disinfecting where the virus may be, seem the solution until the vaccine.
With proper care, people can do more work than by distancing, as long as they don’t infect one another.
By the way, people can also get infected while distant, if the virus gets in contact from a surface where it was and stayed on, without cleaning, such as , subsequent contact from fingers to eyes and so on.
We , of course, can’t test everyone, and, if the tests are done to critical cases, or , those who need it to help others in critical care, they may have a better idea of the virus.
I also didn’t know that those on ventilators could survive by coming back to life after being without vital signs.
It seems like an alternate good reason to have ventilators.
As for the virus spreading more by posting more about it, computers don’t work like that, neither does the virus.
Someone would have to set up a program to infect people with the virus, which would be an illegal program, unless it is done in lab, and , with monitored results, in cases known to be good legal subjects for it and so on.
Computer viruses do not take brain power to infect others, although , they may require forms of processing to operate.
Computer viruses are programs that makes hardware system function in ways they are not meant to be.
This can be such as, turning a computer on when the command to turn it off is issued, or, off , when meant to be on.
Hardware and software use similar binary code to run AI , Artificial Intelligence.
On, Off, Zeros and Ones.
For instance, if I say no, and you say yes, that I said yes, when I said no, it could be virus.
It makes my computer function in ways which it is not meant to be,
in this case, to take one permutation into the other.
The same, when I report the crime of a virus, and , that report is misinterpreted against me,
to be as if I captured illegal data, the discrediting of the capture of illegal data can be a virus,
if it is intended to make my computer function in ways not meant to be.
Worst, if those reports , after wrongfully blamed on me, are on top of that, later accusing me of making false reports of crimes, when I already did reported it, and was wrongfully accused of wrongdoing , when some of the wrongdoers wrongfully accusing me were also liable along with others , creating the virus, those false accusation of false reports of crimes, and, possibly , public nuisance, are in fact, of benefit to society, and embezzled from me, in fraud against my data.
And then the physiological virus happened, and then, the endemic , epidemic , and then pandemic happened, and is still happening.
Those guys still didn’t give up, like if it wasn’t some kind of medical system working for over 200 years in the next 4 years.
They had to come and butt in all the time and plant a rod in their eyes so they can’t see.
No. I’m one of people that is tired of hearing same crap over and over again. But go ahead, continue that meaningless discussion and don’t bother me any more…
Sorry about your luck and the coronavirus ruining your day and your perception of how you think reality should be your majesty.
I have no idea what you’re talking about, but it all sounds like bollocks anyway…
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As long as you work that hard to make sure that nothing positive comes out of it, you might get all the credit for the discrediting, if it’s not against International law.
You might want to check on some free online courses on it though, just saying…
At least, for in case it’s no good for you, you might get comforted in the knowledge I made sure of it, and knowing why.
I can however see what you think about this.
Some people think psychological warfare are video games, where people attack others, and use Artificial Intelligence to make it think it’s better, compared to a level where players who forget what they are talking about make them miss the idea which they are making themselves, and , by imparting it to others, encourages and supports them to share in their assets, towards their confused state and second fog of war phase.
You really shouldn’t be spreading this rubbish, people may die because they believed you…
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I’m not a politician. Every person in the world just admits the covid disaster.
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I never posted that covid is a hoax. It’s true, it’s dangerous in a specific way.
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Social distancing can’t help in a long run time period. This virus appeared, exists and will exist among humans.
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I know, currently this isolation looks like a global “flash mob”, everybody is doing his thing for the sake of best for everybody - spontaneous solidarity. But from month to month, the life in isolation will change.
@Shipwreck_Jones, I don’t know what greenhouse you grew up in, but if you are so enlightened, I advise you to watch this Spanish movie about spontaneous solidarity. It’s a mix between Cube and Orwel’s 1984.
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You know, maybe I should do care about my life only. People will understand all this in the wrong way. I’ll delete the previous post.
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What South Korea did is great. Just check what people in Sweden did btw.
A block of text from the article:
The problem with lockdowns is that “you tire the system out,” Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s chief epidemiologist, told the Guardian . “You can’t keep a lockdown going for months — it’s impossible.” He told Britain’s Daily Mail : “We can’t kill all our services. And unemployed people are a great threat to public health. It’s a factor you need to think about.”
If social isolation worked, wouldn’t Sweden, a Nordic country of 10.1 million people, be seeing the number of COVID-19 cases skyrocket into the tens of thousands, blowing past the numbers in Italy or New York City? As of today, there are 401 reported COVID-19 deaths in Sweden.
These are rich countries. In many poor countries, with partially destroyed medicine institution, the situation is bad. Using the campaign against coronavirus, human Constitutional rights are violated there. The true danger of the current situation, is that population is very polarized: a part of them have their own opinion and they see that they can live this way (during this pandemic), while the other part believe in opposite and they want to punish the first part in any way possible, because they are supported by laws and military force. Just check the hisotry records and read how the fascism happened, what happened in Cambodia during the Khmer Rogue.
The Khmer Rouge regime was highly autocratic, xenophobic, paranoid, and repressive. A large number of deaths resulted from the regime’s social engineering policies and the “Maha Lout Ploh”, an imitation of China’s Great Leap Forward, which caused the Great Chinese Famine.[5]:[10][11] The Khmer Rouge’s attempts at agricultural reform through collectivisation similarly led to widespread famine, while its insistence on absolute self-sufficiency even in the supply of medicine led to the death of many thousands from treatable diseases such as malaria. The Khmer Rouge regime murdered hundreds of thousands of their perceived political opponents, and its racist emphasis on national purity resulted in the genocide of Cambodian minorities. Arbitrary executions and torture were carried out by its cadres against perceived subversive elements, or during genocidal purges of its own ranks between 1975 and 1978.[12] Ultimately, the Cambodian genocide led to the death of 1.5 to 2 million people, around 25% of Cambodia’s population.