All the "PvP"ers would lose their victims, since the victims would stay in the safe zone.
That’s why a safe zone is unfair and won’t be allowed.
EVE is not meant to be fair. 
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Yes it is. Eve is a game based on fair play and sportsmanship, that’s why nobody is allowed to mine without antimining counterplay.
Eve Online is not going to exist unless something changes. You’re more than welcome to tell everyone to ‘git gud’ but ultimately those individuals have chosen to play something else.
I’m not sure if you’d noticed, but we’re up for sale (again). That is not because our new player experience is good.
We have to retain players now, this isn’t 2003. If we don’t, it’s over. Eve is actually under threat now, it’s no longer a meme.
This may unfortunately involve making the game a little fairer. Hardcore MMO’s are dead my dude, welcome to the age of tiktok.
Alternately, if you can find the the 200 million euros required to buy the community from Pearl Abyss-- I’ll happily play by your rules.
It is not confirmed that CCP is for sale. It is just a rumor.
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Perhaps so, but every second post in here is: ‘Lol why would we want to keep new players? They should be bullied out of the game within two seconds of stepping into the worlds most complex and hardcore MMO’
If we keep that attitude, it’s over. It’s not actually a debate anymore. We’ve spent 20 years telling everyone not to play if they’re bad, so suprise suprise-- they’ve chosen not to play.
I like to gank hulks as much as the next guy, but we’re not keeping anybody new. It’s just old players like us spending stupid amounts on new characters and skill injectors.
Plenty of people use, “But think of the newbros!”, doesn’t mean they are right. It’s just an argument used by others to drive their agenda. People scream think of the newbros as they complain about their shiny PVE ship loss, or hulks, or freighters when those are clearly not newbro ships.
Player numbers have been on a steady rise, not a decrease btw. Is everyone just making more and more alts covering for others (and their alts) leaving? Could be, but that would be more money in CCP’s pocket whether it’s a new player or another alt.
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No no no, destroy my Black Ops or abyssal ships any day you want. This is about a safe zone that would encompass a set of 0.9/ 1.0 security systems that would make minimal isk and have level 1 or 2 agents.
Take a wander around high security: Amarr is a shell that it once was. Rens, Hek and other trade hubs are now empty lifeless systems. Everyone’s left.
We have to let people get a foot hold in the game before we start destroying them endlessly. After that, fine.
Perhaps take notice of who I said it to and why. I won’t ruin the surprise.
If you check some of my recent threads you’ll see I myself have posted about these, maybe even was the first to do so.
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As newbie I mined a week unbothered by any gankers in a HS starting system before I ventured forth and got ‘destroyed endlessly’ in null sec.
It wasn’t until later that I realized I was in a safe zone for newbies. The game already protects new players with the rookie griefing rules.
There’s no need for even more safe zones, especially not areas where veteran players can hide their multiboxed mining fleets safely.
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As someone who lives in predominantly in highsec around Rens and Hek, it’s weird that you are saying that spce is empty. They seem busy to me. Over the past couple weeks, I’ve seen new corps (they seem mostly to be Russian industrial corps, maybe building for the null war?) and the systems I mine, mission, and build in are more crowded than I have ever seen.
I am making a fair amount of isk on regional trading between Jita, Ren, and Hek, and it is not at all dead.
Safe systems for newbies are already a thing and has always been a thing. Removing all risk from high sec space will making it dull and eventually drive people away from the game due to boredom.
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It’s appreciated that your take is that they are busy. It is saddening that the only trade hub of note is Jita now, with Amarr useful for most things.
Rens and hek used to be such bustling markets.
Ya know, it might not be a bad idea to add a few new regions with zero tolerance on any aggro… I don’t think it would hurt the game at all, in fact, I think it would help the game with new player retention… Carebear or not, their money helps keep the game alive no matter how they choose to play, so why not give these players what they want? If they want safe places to avoid being ganked, I say give it to them… Their money and retention can no longer be ignored just to hold onto the ‘cut-throat’ niche that has been self-defeating towards new player retention…
Uh oh you will trigger Aiko with such talk… on the other hand she has recently proclaimed she is into creating a friendly environment where everyone feels welcome so maybe she herself will be in support of this idea, who knows.
Edit: Related post:
You can park your new player corvette in the new player system and run the new player experience all day - I won’t bother you.
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Based on his post it seems to me he was more talking about making more 1.0 regions with ratting, missions and mining. Though he probably will clarify what he meant exactly.
There’s plenty of space to manoeuvrer within the new player system. Even with a good microwarpdrive, it will take him quite some time to fully explore. If he wants to go somewhere else, well, he’s certainly welcome to.
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CCP could increase the sec status of all systems by 0.2 or even 0.3 all over hisec. Based on your quote you should be in support of such a welcoming treatment of all players may them be new or old.
I think everyone is eager to join your initiative to make EVE more friendly to everyone, especially proposing it to CCP.
It would be to my benefit. If CCP raises the security status of systems in Highsec, it will force miners into lower security status systems.
I say, change everything to 1.0!
I’m fine with that.