Except for the fact that there aren’t any insults in there.
I know it’s not a gif, but should suffice all the same. 
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Dude, I’m not complaining. I know this is a game to you man.
I’m asking you, can you not see what you are doing?
Point made on insults I think…
The only thing that could be interpreted as an insult is the last about:
But that’s not directed toward the person, but the actions of the person. So no, I wouldn’t call it an insult.
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Look that Troll went after you in another thread using another name, he went at you personally and yet it is my fault.
And you with your taking your meds snide remarks are really not helping.
Yes you are complaining, Eve is a game.
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Ok, so here is me taking the high road and asking you to explain what you mean, because you aren’t making any sense.
What troll? What other name, who “went after me” and how am I blaming you for it.
I mean no insult right now, but I’m going to be blunt here as I clarify, I wouldn’t make quips about people not taking their meds if they didn’t post in a manner that suggested that they are people who need medication for some issue. The above post I quoted of yours is an example. I honestly don’t know WTF you are talking about, it makes no sense at all.
CCP did 3rd iterations of OF, why not made it like reddit with downvoting system if they like it so much? It makes zero sense to have a official forum in that form if they think other forum system is better.
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I don’t know. I just know that I don’t blame them for pretty much ignoring us in here. This whole thread is super ironic.
The guy who came in here after I linked his trolling went after you personally in another thread with another one of his characters. And it was rather nasty too, he was the one who hates America, I am sure you remember it.
I merely linked his trolling to try to explain why people do not post in the Cloaky AFK thread due to Falcon’s post, it was not me who turned it into an AFK cloaky whine thread, my example was to show the type of stuff that goes on.
Why do it, why insult people as if they are some loon, why raise the temperature on people. You make a lot of good points in your posts, some I agree with and some I don’t, but the trolling part such as that dig, make many of your posts rather painful, I think it is your emotions that are at play there, again I am not trying to be insulting but when you want a discussion and a reasonable debate you do not do it. Surely you can see that?
PS On reflection this is the part, but I was trying to say that there is an issue which has some merit to me and others, but the thread is so terrible in terms of trolling that people see no value to post in there. And I was pointing out that Falcon’s failure to police it made it so people kept on opening up new threads.
So yes I started the AFK cloaky bit in reply to Falcon’s post, but only to say that even reasonable points cannot be made in that thread and it is his issue.
And look the troll is at it again with his links and all. This guy is poison and he does it all the time and you say it is me?
Again forum PvP…, it is not at all about having a reasonable discussion, exchange ideas and viewpoints agreeing to differ, etc., see a good example of what I was pointing out.
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A forum PvP main has to go where forum PvP happens… But I have no clue wtf you’re talking about here.
Correction: It wasn’t you alone. But as many others can attest, you had no small part in making it such.
Also, blaming me personally and me alone that whiners get ripped apart in a thread that I barely read, let alone reply in? Yeah, it only shows yet again that you just have personal and emotional problems with people that simply don’t agree with you.
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Yeah Dracvlad. Come back once you’ve learned what a “reasonable discussion” actually is. Start with that link in the post above, it’s very thorough and detailed about it. But to start you off, here’s a hint for what it isn’t: “Either agree with my illogical non-sense or get labeled a troll.”
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Some people dont realize they are trolls. They think they are “good” and “justified” in whatever they do.
Some people have so internalized a “bitchy” and/or trollish format of communication as a norm, that they genuinely cant communicate any differently. Its all they know how.
Some people genuinely think only people that agree with them, or that they like, deserve common human decency in discourse.
Some people conflate their own feelings with their disagreements on issue. Some focus on “tone” rather than content.
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Rather its a self-serving, self-enforced, sense of self.
Ie: “I am good, and therefore all I do is justified and good.”
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:facepalm:
It’s available as an emoji here actually.
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In that link, your case is even an explicit example for what reasoning is not.
Some seem to think that reasons are only meant to persuade oneself or others. If they do persuade others, as in a debate, political campaign, or courtroom, that is all that matters. Truth, for people with this perspective, is irrelevant or is merely what people can get each other to believe. And if one fails to persuade others of one’s viewpoint, that is unfortunate but also unimportant if one has the power to do what he wants to do anyway. Such people see no distinction between good objections to their views and bad objections to their views; they only see persuasive and unpersuasive objections. One friend of mine was invited to sit in on company discussions about the purchase of a half-million dollar system of some sort and he voiced objections, explaining why it would not successfully do what they wanted it to do. He was not invited to ensuing meetings; the system was purchased; it did not meet their needs; and the company took a half-million dollar loss. Later he asked why he had not been wanted at the meetings where the decisions were actually made about purchasing the system and he was told that he had such good arguments for not buying the system, they were afraid he would talk them out of it, and it was something they really wanted to buy. They apparently understood logic as persuasion, not as something to do with facts or reality which might let them know ahead of time whether something would actually work or not.
- I really want AFK cloaking gone
- I don’t care about facts that don’t support my argument
- I try to remove all those that don’t agree with me from the discussion (denouncing them by calling them “trolls”; whining to Falcon to ban them)
So no Dracvlad, you really don’t understand what “reasoning” is. Neither do you understand logic. And that’s why everyone calls you a whiner and a troll and doesn’t want to have any discussion with you. Because you’re incapable of having one.
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You seem rather desperate mate.
And I am about to go do something in game and I am having a lot of fun atm tm, something you don’t do as you don’t play anymore, just pointing that out.
Not under Linus Gorp or your troll toon. But glad to see that you are playing again, even after you said that you were no longer playing…
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That’s why the last kill on my killboard is from 2 days ago. Because I don’t play anymore. Yeah…
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Some people discuss to persuade others.
Some people discuss to express their views.
Few people discuss to reach concensus, or a solution.
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It’s about being reasonable. Something you appear to have completely missed.
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