Why is EVE so toxic?

Some people want to watch the world burn? Or burn everything.

:chair: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Others might just enjoy throwing people’s furniture around and stealing their popcorn. :thinking:

:innocent:

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Kind of smart to bring your own chair for the show.

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There’s not good enough loot, so players are going toxic. If there was good purple loot out there eve would go too dangerous and everyone would stay in the station.

Mining in a .4 system seems like fun. What was his security status? Maybe pay for a mining pass in a .4 system and get some protection. If that’s possible go for it.
What would make me go toxic is a career of a frigate ship and how long it takes to make 20 million.

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That’s off topic, because EVE is not the same as a FPS game and analogies are no arguments!

(To paraphrase another forum poster.)

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Ships and interpersonal relationships!

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Is it thou?

FPS games have a main char which is centered on the screen you grind gear then use that gear to pvp if you die you respawn. So some people decide they are tired of dying and they will be the ones who camp.

In Eve you have your main ship in the center of your screen you grind gear then use that gear to pvp if you die you respawn and when people get tired of dying some of them turn to camping as its safer.

They both have killboards for score, both can type in local and trash talk the opponent bath can move freely except eve has vertical movement where fps the only vertical movement is jumping and crouching.

Not when you mine in a Venture :smiley:

I can replace my ship for free in 5 minutes :smile:

Maybe I can buy his name when CCP puts it up for auction.

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

Yea that’s true there are a lot of ships where you can replace them fast which is great for the game but 5minutes is never free, 5minutes is still 5minutes of your life :].

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Goes to lowsec unprepared, loses a t1 fitted Retriever, takes to the forums, calls normal gameplay toxic.

Only in EvE Online.

I’ll give you this, OP, CCP doesn’t clearly advertise that pvp is on everyone’s menu. But now you know, and the rest is up to you.

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I spend 5 minutes in the toilet every once in a while. No big deal.

Did Hello-Kitty-Online close again?

EVE is not meant to be friendly and it is not meant to be about “minding my own business”.

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I’m glad that my message was conveyed properly :slight_smile:

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It’s not meant to be toxic either, although for the amount of a-holes playing it, it is no surprise that it’s a den of cheating scoundrels.

Well, you flew into space where everyone is free to kill anyone. Some people find having an easy target to be ‘content’ and ‘something to do’. So you’re there to do some quiet mining, he’s there to do some easy killing. Both are part of the game.

The primary issue is, he was more prepared to survive in easy-kill-space than you were. Sure, it’s not fun to be someone’s easy target. Therefore you shouldn’t make yourself someone’s easy target.

There’s a fair bit of truth in Mr. Epeen’s observation here. EVE is generally advertised and discussed in ways that highlight it’s lawlessness and bad-boy potential. Not everyone’s a dick, not even most of them. But don’t be surprised if you fly into lawless-space and get bad-boyed.

Gerard is also correct. It’s a game that features kill-anyone-anywhere PvP (with consequences varying by region). The ‘why?’ you’re asking about is because many people actually play EVE because of the ability to locate and destroy real players with real loss. Sure it’s a niche crowd but every MMO doesn’t have to cater to the same audience.

TBH if you aren’t prepared to be aware of and take steps to prevent ship loss by player combat in EVE, then you were never a potential player anyway. Yes, you can mine in EVE. But you can’t mine safely. You will lose ships. If you plan ahead and take good precautions, then you’ll make enough profit between ship losses to easily afford the occasional replacement.

If you can’t be bothered to understand how to minimize your risk, and instead take a max-yield, untanked, high-risk target to mine in “Killspace” only 6 jumps away from Jita, then you’re basically in the category of people who walk down dark alleys in Brooklyn while shining a flashlight on the large stack of $100 bills in their hand… and wondering why you got mugged.

EVE is a game of trying to achieve something by carefully managing your risks vs. rewards. Not about going for fast easy payouts and being oblivious to everything around you.

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But you went there anyway in a poorly fitted T1 Retriever without checking killboard and noticing all the solo kills on mining ships in that system or the fact that 558 ships a month are destroyed in the system you were in.

I nominate you for this year’s Eve Darwin Awards.

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So wait, when players get exploded you say they’re dumb but when they don’t get exploded you complain they don’t undock… You can’t have it both ways, honey o.O

I’m glad that you interpret it that way!

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Only you could create a bogus contradiction. I’ve never asked anyone to mine in lowsec in a poorly fitted T1 Retriever. That fitting would have problems surviving a solo ganker in highsec, let alone in lowsec.

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