I must be on to something since you refuse to say why its a bad idea
Basically, we are wanting to cut out the middle man. If youāve got 1 million spare LP that you would like to sell me, without having to convert it to an item first, then Iāll gladly buy it. It just skips the step of having to grind the LP, buy the tags, Nexus chip, or whatever else the item requires. Plus it would allow players to get rid of otherwise worthless LP.
It would benefit mission runners and non-mission runners alike. If you are a mission runner with a ton of LP, but youād rather not have to buy or acquire the tags that are also required to purchase items from the LP store, then just straight up sell the LP to other players who are willing to do that.
If you are a non-mission runner who would rather buy the LP from mission runners rather than having to grind for it for days or weeks, then simply purchase it from them.
Thereās still an element of risk involved. For example, if you buy ORE or Serpentis LP from a mission runner, you still have to travel to NPC null in order to exchange it for the item you are wanting, then attempt to get out of there alive with itā¦
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And @Aisha_Katalen wins by a landslide. You are really getting good at this forum thing.
Mr Epeen 
At the end of the day being able to buy and sell LP on the market will increase player engagement. Everyone wins except @Aisha_Katalen apparantly
So you say. But itās just words if you canāt explain why.
And you canāt. Or wonāt.
Mr Epeen 
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When is the last time you used a LP store?
Hereās what will actually happen:
LP values and prices will normalise and, as it always is, end up being a race to the bottom. Regardless of how well you planned or chose your LP items you sell on your market of choice where you being smart about your location might help you, youāll have to compete with lazies and idiots meaning your LP > isk conversion will be lower and for all related LP products.
The only real beneficiaries are the ones who want/need to buy items in large bulk and who arenāt interested in having to deal with the middle man and small batch sales of the items they need. And who are those people generally? Thatās right, big null alliances.
Which is quite the coincidence because if you look at the OPās short posting history itās pretty much all null lobbying.
This does not NOT help normal players gathering their LP, this does NOT help traders and thus, as a whole, this does NOT help smaller groups. It only help null alliances if and if thereās one thing we donāt need more of itās advantages for null.
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I can see your point, which is why my idea is the better way to go. LP-to-LP conversion at a conversion ratio based on its value. Or a set ratio, whichever. Iād be perfectly fine with a 10:1 conversion ratio.
For example, Iāve got 1 million LP for Caldari Steel that Iām never going to spend. I can convert it to SOE LP at a 10:1 ratio and get 100k SOE LP out of it that I will end up using.
Being able to buy and sell LP on the market helps the little guy more than anyone else
How?
Mr Epeen
That would mean conversion of your own LP without market or trading to others. This is already much less of a problem. Thing is of course that it can still be gamed and could still impact different LP stores by chaining really easy gathered LP for difficult to get LP where even the conversion rate still makes it worth it. Resulting in LP gathering being even more centralised which, just as we see with Jita, tends to end up in cannibalism of other content, locations or options.
The problem with this is that it standardizes things even more where choices have less consequences, and personally Iām not a fan of that at all. If someone has some (left over) LP for some forgotten LP store they donāt care about any more then so be it.
At the moment the little guy is forced to go through hoops to convert LP to ISK and only the big alliances really have access to large amounts of LP at the moment
An addditional thought on converting of LP from one faction to another one:
This would allow to get LP for stores that currently have no way to get LP for.
Iām thinking of the Ressource Wars / Mining Blitz event corporations. They got their own LP stores including SKINs and apparel items. Currently there is no way to get more LP for these stores.
Example: State Military Stockpile
(I still hope CCP brings back the event sites one day)
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Miner Wars was indeed funā¦
What are these hoops of which you speak? And define what you mean by āthe little guyā?
Also, how is this little guy more affected by this than the solo guy, or the medium guy, or the big guy or the really big as ā ā ā ā guy?
Mr Epeen
Why not?
It seems to me that you can redeem them, sell the stuff, and buy the SOE thing you want for a lot less than that 10:1 ratio. And you can do it now. No need to wait a decade for CCP to make LP tradable.
Mr Epeen
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When LP was first introduced they probably werent intended to be used as a main reward but the game evolved.
For example in FW you get 150K LP for capturing a certain battlefield that is up several times a day. You could afford everything in the store fast if you actively captured BFs. So the intention in FW is clearly to have people convert the LP to ISK but there is no simple way at the moment because the LP store has not evolved to truly support this yet. Sad
That sounds like a big guy thing (null corps/alliances sitting on billions of LP), not āthe little guyā.
Mr Epeen
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