Went looking after the trigs again in a firestorm tier 5 site in a blaster deimos only found 3 rooms of drone swarms used light automata supresors in room 1 and 3 and multibody tracking tower in room 2 site was done with plenty of time left.
2nd site firestorm tier 5 deimos blaster had room 1 drone bs plus ewar room 2 drone swarm room 3 drone bs plus logi site was done with 3mins 30 sec left however i didn’t loot still would’ve been on time even with looting.room 1 and 3 simply brawled down the drone bss while maintaining my best transversal under web while drones cleaned the tiny support drones room 2 against frig swarm used a multibody tracking pylon to aid in killign the little drones.
3rd site tier 5 firestorm deimos blasters room 1 frig swarm ran off to a light supressor swarm died,room 2 drone swarm ran off to a multibody tracking pylon and proceeded to chew through the drones there room 3 drone bs plus mix ewar and logi brawled down the bs while my drones cleaned it’s support received 2 wrecking shots during the brawl overall nothing broken site done with 6 mins left didn’t loot again but time was plenty.
4th firestorm site 1st room triglavian spawn deimos blasters group contained 4 vedmaks i tried to go in for a good early tackle but missed coupled with the larger sig bloom from my mwd allowed them good tracking this time the vedmaks tried to maintain a longer orbit similar to before 17km or so,vedmaks did not neut.Overall I am unsure if tackle would’ve helped much i still would’ve needed my mwd to keep in range of a webed vedmak which would’ve allowed the rest good hits given my larger signature radius
5th firestorm tier5 blaster deimos updated for dual prop and sw drones to aid in catching vedmaks encountered a triglavian spawn in first room with a mixture of normal vedmaks and neut vedmaks plus neut demaviks on a single medium cap booster and no battery had no chance to maintain tackle or tank vedmaks went for the 17ish km orbit again
Last firestorm tier 5 site in ishtar 2nd room contained triglavian spawn again 3 vedmaks 6 demaviks no neuts this time.Vedmaks went for their 17km orbit after taking big chunks of armor out of my ishtar on their aproach i began heating my tank and pulsed the adcu meanwhile switched my trackign disruptor to optimal range disruption and began cycling it one cycle at a time on each vedmak to reset their weapon dmg while chosing some random demavik on aproach to help build some transversal to the vedmaks easier while watching my armor dip up and down and trying to keep myself alive.During all this i deployed a set of ogre 2s and began spamming their engagement key on a vedmak while continuing to cycle my tracking disruptor between all 3 vedmaks incoming damage became manageable at times noticeably building up at one point when i forgot to cycle the disruptor.
First vedmak died understandably slow due to the sites 50% inc hp and ogres not being the fastest best drones ever,demaviks began breaking off and chasing the drones to kill them i decided to sacrifice several ogres to take down the 2nd vedmak somewhere before the 1st vedmak died i managed to pulse another adcu cycle at one point after losing a bit of hull and pulled back all my armor after 2nd vedmak died i left my td on last one and it was rendered totaly useless without being in it’s new optimal it never landed another hit and i began cleaning up the rest of the group.
The fight was difficult and downright scary in it’s opening moments when alot of my armor was lost to the vedmaks aproach maintaining tank while i cycled my td between each vedmak before any were down required some heating and hoping the plan would work which aparently it did.
The sweet spot appears to be 3 vedmaks for a good brawl without needing asklepian implants note thati had 3% hardwirings to help with local reps dual med armor reps a reactive armor hardener 2 t2 rigs to improve armor hp repaired by repers and rep speed cycle and a standard exile drug pill in effect last tanking mods were an explosive energized reactive plating to cover exp hole and the ADCU.
Last night, doing an F4, I ran into a drifter spawn with 4-5 neuting cruisers and one BS. I was fresh from the last pocket and only had half cap. The BS ran away and the cruisers neuted me out before I could get under the BS’s guns. I had no chance.
These sites require a cap injector relying on ccc rigs or batteries won’t help you much like makshima shogo said move away from the rats when you enter to gain as much distance as you can from the drifter bs when the cruisers catch up fight with the cruisers when they’re dead go for the bs
Just had a rather funny tier 5 firestorm in ishtar all 3 rooms had drone bs plus support which means higheest possible rat ehp currently imo esp with firestorm active giving them 50%.
I rushed through doing the rooms as fast as i knew last drone bs died like 10-15 sec after timer for colapse expired i clicked the gate to get out died during the gate animation to pocket colapse.I should also point out no time was wasted looting i simply went for the gates there was no downtime of me not doing dmg to a certain rat meaning everytime a drone bs was going down i was on my way to the gate when i reached the gate i waited bit more for my ogres to finish the job then recalled them .If i were to include looting too in the whole scenario i would’ve died before the 3rd drone bs died.
Curently triple drone bs firestorm tier 5 is not acheivable .
Another tier 5 firestorm drone bs plus support 1st room drone bs plus support 2nd room drone swarm 3rd room there was no structure worth using on the drone swarm in last room had to kill them the old fashioned way site was done just as the timer hit 0 i didn;t even dedicate time to any looting. ship used ishtar
Another tier 5 firestorm in ishtar first and 2nd room drone swarm no usable structures 3rd room drifters site was done with 1 min left i didn’t bother looting
Yet another tier 5 firestorm 1st room drone swarm used a light supressor job done 2nd room drifter neut cruiser group 10 cruisers plus 1 bs no trouble fighting them either room 3 drone swarm again and used another light supressor site done in ishtar in 15 mins.
Another site firestorm tier 5 1st room contained a triglavian spawn of 2-3 frigates and 4 vedmaks no neuts i deployed ogres knowing they would melt the demaviks which they did rather quickly and began using both my armor reps out of sync with each other to prevent any alpha hits from the vedmaks while trying to cycle the tracking disruptor on optimal disruption between them.Damage was manageable to some extent however from any previous test i curently had a set of mid grade asklepians inserted along with standard exile booster and 3% hardwirings to aid the armor reps.
My tank lasted for what felt like ages between some td cycles on certain rats small amounts of heating and the odd adcu pulse but my ogre 2s did not manage to land a single hit on the vedmaks despite constantly giving them order to atack they seemed to not keep up…
Most likely a faction web with heat wouldve help immensely there but the cruisers wouldve had time to spool up alot my gues is by the time 1st cruiser wouldve died other 3 would’ve been close to 100% charged up leaving me to tank the equivalent of 6 unspooled up vedmaks.Regardlees i dont have a faction web on sisi either.
Last site Triglavian neut vedmak engagement in first room tier 5 firestorm after some small tweaks to my ishtar fit i went back in same pod mid grade asklepians dual reps etc.
Triglavian group had 3 neuting vedmaks along with 6-8 frigates some had neuts too damage from the cruisers was as always fast and hard and scary I deployed drones earlier during their aproach this time and went for a vedmak knowing it’s do or die time the initial dmg and neut burst from the vedmaks managed to cap me out despite having a battery for defense and a cap injector and using the injector to get my cap to max before they closed in.Just as I was caping out and giving up hope they began switchign to the ogres and a runnign battle between my drones and the vedmaks began while i was trying to pull the most damaged back in eventualy lost quite a few drones in the fight with the vedmaks maybe 3 or 4 before all 3 were down also taking down just vedmaks took ages as long as it took to destroy an entire large driftergroup bs included.
After the cruisers were dealt with i cleaned up the frigates some died faster some slower not sure why saw one run away awkwardly some 40km from me without drones on it.
I completed the entire site 2nd and 3rd room had frig swarms so i managed to get out in time
I just tried that fit. I get much better results with this:
[Sacrilege, Sacrilege]
Assault Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
10MN Afterburner II
Stasis Webifier II
Target Painter II
Missile Guidance Computer II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Medium Energy Nosferatu II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Valkyrie II x6
Warrior II x6
Nova Rage Heavy Assault Missile x4885
Missile Precision Script x1
Dread Guristas Nova Heavy Assault Missile x3491
So far i can say i’ve encountered 4 types of triglavian spawns in tier 5 sites:
1st-4 vedmaks no neuts+ demaviks settle on 17km orbit
2nd-4 vedmaks no neuts+demaviks settle on orbit within 10km
3rd-3 vedmaks with neuts+demaviks settle on 17km orbit
4th-5-6 vedmaks mixed neuts and no neuts + few demaviks settle on 17km orbit
I have been using a vagabond, I can reliabley complete level 4’s. Level 5’s I have done except when I get to the neuts, or the one with 4 vedmaks you have to kite them like you do frigs but they are extemely fast so this is hard to do. If they stay in optimal they nuke you as their dps ramps up. I have encountered one that had 2 vedmaks and 4 neuting triglavians I was able to tank the vedmaks but I ran out of cap as I killed the last neut so it caused me to change my vaga fit to accomodate that. Here is my current fit:
[Vagabond, Vagabond]
Assault Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Large Shield Booster II
Small Capacitor Booster II
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Hail M
Small Energy Nosferatu II
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
‘Augmented’ Acolyte x5
Barrage M x5000
Hail M x5000
Republic Fleet Fusion M x5000
Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M x5800
Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium M x5000
the only ammo you need is depleted uranium for the frigates, phased plasma for the cruisers as you want max dps and dont need to worry about tracking and Hail for the battleships.
Slaped a passive regen tank gila together with more favourable resists toward thermal and went into a t5 firestorm room 1 found a trig spawn containing 3 dps vedmaks and 6 demaviks deployed drones on a vedmak immediately and fury thermal missiles the drones derped a bit but not that much and quite fast first vedmak blew up with the other 2 trying to maintain their usual orbit falling out of their optimals ocasionaly and also trying to switch to my drones unfortunately i was packing severla sets of augmented hammerheads which just facetanked the rats until entire group died never diped below 50% shield.
Another firestorm triglavian engagement tier5 trigs had 4 vedmaks no neuts 2 demaviks went right away for a vedmak the entire group tried to go for the under 10km orbit received quite alot of shots lowest shield mustve been 10-15% as 3rd vedmak died after that shield stabilised i finished the rest.
Do those large suppressors work? I didn´t seem to get them to work on anything, neither drones nor frigates… But I sometimes also had some small suppressors that didn´t start to damage drones, even though they were banging against the hull…