Color me a little impressed, pilot.
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a huge thanks for your time and dedication sir !
@Veskin_Sentinel I know you have been busy those times, but did you, by any luck, had time to improve your spectral analyser ? itâs a case where it would have proven immensely useful.
Iâll try to send some funds/personnel to you to help on the developments.
(( OOC :: @red_revenge friendly reminder that it is a âin characterâ forum so no âbugsâ of âgfxâ ^^ given your dedication itâs not very important but I wanted to do the precision ^^ ))
@Haria_Haritimado do ARCâs members have any news or maybe want to share their ideas/though with the rest of us ?
back on the hypothesis side.
=> this is a good sign, it mean the solar winds are not âthatâ affected (yet).
=> thatâs interesting, of course there is still many possible explanation, but it give us some informations on the triglavian
- IF they are indeed harvested, two main possibilities
A. they are not in dire need of these = their goal go further than âsimplyâ harvesting them
B. harvesting them isnât so simple = with some time, a counter measure could be made to disrupt their operation without having to retake the system.
that is VERY interesting.
Since it is a âtrueâ triglavian made structure and not something made for us, it mean their energy patterns are compatible with ours.
It could mean that they are able to interface with our power sources, it would corroborate the idea that mutaplasmids could feed on our energy grids without our knowledge.
There is another possibility, but much more disturbing and I lack evidence to defend it.
is the singularity on the front stable ? or did it change as the other two do ?
If stable, it would be mean the âtriangle rayâ we see on the leshak are not there to stabilize it, maybe to draw itâs power ?
That would mean that the effects of the lattice are only from the âsun facingâ side. Either for harvesting, protection or emission remain to be seen but itâs still informations.
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if this isnât a bug it could be VERY VERY interesting. ))
I apologize for some strange text in my assessments. Believe this is a result of me trying to interface with the triaglavian structures and this having a affect on my systems. Iâve deployed some preliminary countermeasures and swapped out some of the communications systems to hopefully avoid this in the future. Iâll have someone look over the affected parts, maybe they can find something that will help me with better countermeasures in the future.
Thank you for pointing out these errors.
is the singularity on the front stable ? or did it change as the other two do ?
Iâve not noticed any fluctuations on this singularity at any time.
Currently keeping an eye out on the Nexus to see the behavior of the mining process.
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Dr. Fallenstar
While I am following the progress of the Triglavian situation very closely and I am also seeing all the various research efforts, I am actually more concerned with the management and evaluation of such efforts right now. We see many activities, but we also experience many contradicting and irritating developments. In Raravoss, for example, the situation was jumping back and forth and I believe that the situation is so fluid and in the process of unfolding that reliable data gathering is complicated. Thatâs the main reason why we hesitated to release preliminary results or updates.
However, I would like to give a summary of research efforts currently underway (as far as I am aware of).
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Invasion pattern prediction: The relevance of sun type for the invasion campaign was established in the Triglavian Primer and recognized by EDENCOM. We are now focusing on continued data gathering on the invasion patterns. This is done by ARC right now and also picked up by other groups, e.g. Electus Matari. One main issue is the data precision and quality.
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Prediction of invasion dynamics and triage: This research topic seems to be most important for strategical purposes right now. We develop the initial idea of the invasion risk group of solar systems further into some kind of triage system where we hope to predict the dynamics of a conflict over a given solar system. The idea is to find reliable patterns for the progress towards Final Liminality or the securing of a system by means of an EDENCOM Fortress. If we understand these conflict dynamics, we can deploy more effectively to systems with high likelihood of a fast escalation towards Final Liminality.
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Conflict Overview and Battlefield Assessment: We have seen many new structures, mechanics, entities, deadspace pockets, combat sites, and behaviors appearing with the latest stage of the Triglavian campaign. A thorough record and overview of all those aspects is underway. The main goal is to have a reliable reference for new and unusual developments in this highly dynamic situation. It also aims to educate pilots new to this whole thing so they can quickly learn whatâs going on and how to get involved in a meaningful way.
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The âharvesting processâ on stars: Several initiatives are working on that urgent topic. What happens with our suns? How is the Convocation doing this? How are the facilities working? I am aware of A) theorization by Dr. Fallenstar about the possible ways and means to manipulate the sun matter. Aria Jenneth provided documentation and further thoughts on this. Most interestingly, we might actually see singularities as a main or by-product of the Porevitium Transmuter. B) Komi Valentine proposed an experimental setup in order to analyse the Porevitium Transmuter beam and its energy density. First steps have been undertaken. C) Red Revenge did some experimental work and analysis on the structures involved. Also, Lilly Terranova, Ilm Gaterau, Stargazer, Sar Hasarin and others from ARC are observing the sun very closely and contribute many details and correcting thoughts. I hope I havnât missed too many names here. D) Lastly, there are some theories on stellar manipulation in the first and third Triglavian Primer as well. I would like to see that reviewed and reconciled at some point.
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Topic of gravity and interstellar travel: The sun topic got entangled with thoughts on the manipulation of stargate networks, wormhole spawning rate, the role of filament technology and so forth. I see the gravitational work of Dr. Fallenstar as an important approach. However, the topic seems to be in need for more clear boundaries and limits. Sinikka Hakatain from ARC has gathered data on wormhole spawning rates over the past days. Which seems to be a sub-topic on its own. First results indicate that everything is within usual boundaries though.
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Interaction of other factions: Certain pilots are already looking beyond the matters at hand. Does the latest stage of Triglavian invasion affect other factions? If so, how? Questions have been raised about the Drifters and Sanshaâs Nation (and always the Rogue Drones on top). But we might also see other actors shift their focus of operation or diplomatic positions. ARC is planning to continue the observation of Drifter Hives and systems. Thatâs mostly exploration work but especially the role of the Drifters is also subject to scientific and historical theorization. Respected Uriel Antevnuecci is a major reference in this regard.
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The Raravoss case: There is a project on its way under my lead at the moment, aiming at the detailed reconstruction of the first 48 hours of the Raravoss invasion. This is a social science research project, focusing on the hysteria and social dynamics among capsuleers within Raravoss.
I certainly missed something and also some names. So please bear with me. This is not the time of armchair research and the situation is hard to oversee.
In order to use our potential effectively I hereby call to all of you researchers to claim one or more topics above - or introduce additional ones! By claiming I mean the willingness to act as project lead, coordinate the manyfold activities in a productive way, and serve as a spokesman and contact for others who want to contribute or are interested in the results. ARC is planning to organize a meeting for research coordination soon, so we might just expand this to a project lead meeting.
Sincerely yours,
Haria Haritimado
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Iâm assisting with various activities and some research of my own.
Our technicians are currently setting up a server for public use of our internal communication platform. I think it could prove useful to coordinate the global efforts.
more informations in a few hours.
you can expect this server to be a neutral place, as much a-politic as we can manage, free of any contact with any mutaplasmids and with the intention to keep things as much public as we can.
Science is best when shared, debated, tested and put to the test.
At least thatâs the modus operandi of the scientists at the khazad consortium.
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Yes, I have been working on the analyzer and some major improvements are made. Based on the research I conducted in your wormhole base facilities (before they got destroyed) there are improvements in the analyzer deployment methods. This is not news for you, Mr Fallenstars, but for everyone else it may be: The analyzer can now be deployed as a standalone small structure, the size of a mobile depot. With the additional space, there are improvements on the range of the analyzer and its capabilities to scan larger objects like moons, planets and stars.
Back in my labs: Ever since the Triglavian Collective began its invasions, me and my associates have been working on improving the Spectral Analyzer with software and hardware updates. Fast forward to recent days: I am employed on an extended 14 hour-a-day work time and we are doing what we can to make the analyzer capable to recognize even the smallest details of Triglavian based designs and structures. We clearly need more materials on this case, so I hope that the current collaborations between the prominent groups and indiviuals working on this invasion case bear fruit for us, so thanks in advance to anyone that would aid us.
We have an updated version of the Spectral Analyzer already in production. It is not as capable as I would like it to be, but will do. Software and hardware updates will be provided frequently. In 10 hours the first batch will be ready, so I will distribute it for use.
For information on the Spectral Analyzer check this article.
And thanks to all involved in the ongoing efforts to better understand this situation and find the best course of action.
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A-partisan perhaps, the very gathering is a political act. 
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perhaps so we have new content ?
To be honest i wouldnât mind to see pro triglavian people there.
How i see science is that the theory is universal but itâs application is up to the community to decide.
In the long run, nothing matter, humanity will survive.
And i donât think that my personal idea of what âgoodâ is is anything else than a personal idea.
But such philosophical talk isnât science.
Dear members of the IGS,
My name is Diana Beesley and Iâm the CEO of the ULFD Corportation.
It has come to my attention that one of my employees has been addressing you the last few days in regards to the triglavian invasion in the system of Raravoss. Though a good worker his communication skills are lacking and with a possible infection of his systems I have therefore decided that he must stop any and all communications with members of the IGS, except for one last message. Any further findings he has will go through me. I would like to ask all IGS members to ignore any communications from this employee in any of the channels. I was unable to do this sooner as I was busy having meetings with Minmatar and Gallente representativeâs to broker a non-agression agreement for said worker so he can investigate the invasion in their systems as well. With this I would like to thank both parties for this agreement as this was successfully resolved.
I would like to ask the IGS to forgive my lack of knowledge on anything research related as this is not my area of expertise. There is a lot of info that I have to go through so please bear with me as I will do my best to understand all of this.
In regards to Haria Haritimado proposition, my employee has addressed great interest to help in any way he can in the various fields. Note that any of the communications will still go through me.
With all of the introductions over I will now start with the research my employee was able to gather on the 4th of June:
- The Extractive Super-Nexus (ESN)
- Mining Cycle: +/- 30 Seconds
- Mining Rate: 0.76m3/sec (More then a our civilian miner at 0.6m3/sec)
- Mining priorities: Veldspar > Scordite.
- Mining Range: at least 15km
- At around 16:44 multiple ESNâs suspended their mining operations (List can be provided in what asteroid belts this happened)
- At around 18:43 multiple ESNâs resumed operations. Though not all of the suspended ESNâs resumed operations.
- None of the deactivated ESNâs have had their power drained and were still at the same power level as my employee has provided in a previous statement.
- At 14:59 a Wormhole was scanned that, at that time, was near itâs end of itâs lifetime. This WH lead to the system of J134136. No further sightings of WH anomalies were detected during the research time.
Today he will resume research on the ESNâs as well as travel to Vale to compare previous collected data now the invasion is in his second stage.
I thank you all for your time and effort.
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Sadly the directorâs board of this morning decided that making an AGORA server public is too risky for the safety of our members.
I assured them that only people of science would participate but since most of capsuleerâs history is made on lies and betrayal, I canât really blame them for their opinion.
If people are interested in discussing the gravity and/or harvesting process, Iâll be on ARCâs server.
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Fellow Capsuleers
I would like to summarize the responses to the proposed research projects so far and give an outline for further steps:
A) Porevitium Transmuter and sun harvesting: Status: running; lead: @Umbre_Fallenstar; requested researchers: @Komi_Valentine, @Lilly_Terranova, @Ilm_Gaterau; needs further contributors.
B) Transmuter Beam Analysis (sub-project to A?): Status: running; lead: @Komi_Valentine; needs further contributors.
C) Gravity and Gate/Wormhole Manipulation: Status: early concept; lead: @Umbre_Fallenstar; requested researchers: @Veskin_Sentinel, @Sinikka_Hakatain
D) Conflict Overview and Battlefield Assessment: Status: running; lead: Haria Haritimado; requested contributors: @Lilly_Terranova, @Diana_Beesley
E) Predicition of invasion dynamics and triage: Status: evaluating ; lead: ARC; needs further contributors.
F) Invasion pattern prediction: Status: running; lead: ARC.
G) The Raravoss Case : Local Analysis: Status: running; lead: Haria Haritimado.
The next step would be for the project leads to establish communication and get things rolling with collaborating researchers. Of course, the projects are not only open for mentioned pilots above. Those are only the ones who already expressed interest.
This thread here is probably not the best place to continue detailed research discussions. I suggest you open up dedicated threads on IGS where interested contributors or readers can follow your efforts more easily.
For projects A, B, and C we have opened up channels on our usual external ARC communications server (#project-gravity, #project-transmuter,# project-beam). This was requested by Dr. Fallenstar and we see the great potential to keep in touch and discuss further steps there. If this goes well, we might expand on the idea and establish more channels if needed. Thank you, Dr. Fallenstar, for the dedicated initiatve!
How to proceed: depending on the status of your research project I suggest you start with the following questions:
- Define the research goal and scope of the project as clearly as possible.
- Specify the required methods of data gathering and analysis. Since we are capsuleers, prioritize on data we can confirm in space whenever possible. Theorizing is important as well, of course.
- Who will be active contributors? Recruit others as needed.
- Start data gathering and keep up a lively discussion!
Of course, nothing is set in stone. The outline written above is a suggestion. Please donât feel pushed into anything you donât really want to do, since we have so many pressing matters at hand that research is certainly not the priority for all of us. I am looking forward to working with you.
Sincerely,
Haria Haritimado
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To spare discussion in this thread, I would suggest arranging a meeting between those named here, and any who would be interested in contributing their own combat data and observations of the conflict to this project. Anyone with any such data, I ask that you please contact me via EVE Mail with what you would like to contribute, and a convenient meeting time if you feel further explanation or discussion is necessary.
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Having heard reports of further changes to Raravossâs star now that the Triglavians have held the system for some time, I returned to investigate any such developments. Reports, it seems, were not exaggerated. I am attaching images I was able to capture of the star, and the obviously strengthened Transmuter beam at work on it. The Triglavians, having completed the Transmuter, are clearly stepping up whatever process to which they are subjecting Raravossâs star. Compare the images below with those taken previously, even as the system entered Final Liminality.
Below is the star in its entirety. It appears to have further blackened, and the much larger Transmuter beam can be clearly seen.
Below is a closer shot of the Transmuter beam itself and the area around it, now a much more sharply defined red, likely indicating a decrease in energy and temperature as the star itself continues to blacken.
I was unable to capture images of the completed Transmuter given the combined Triglavian and capsuleer presence, seemingly deployed in its defense. That the Triglavians have secured the system and still take these defensive measures may speak to the degree of trust they place in their capsuleer âallies,â or a concern that EDENCOM may attempt to halt their work on the star.
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This evolution is concerning.
I can only hope that the triglavian know what they are doing and that edencomâs intervention wonât disturb this process.
I personally think that i may not be the first time the collective come back from the abyss.
The next week i will organise a research project on the pink stars already present.
Do the concordâs data on the star have changed ?
CONCORDâs public data on the star remains the same. As EDENCOM has abandoned the system, it is possible that CONCORD simply has no data to publish.
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This Prospektor Schipplock from Edencom reporting. We got some news here⌠delivered by some kybernauts.
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The fact that the warp speed is downgraded would confirm that my hypothesis off increased energy need for warp tunnel creation.
On the fact that remote repair is increased iâm really worried that would mean the presence of mutaplasmides in the areaâŚ
That specific thing you can maybe relax about, sir. Itâs one of the âweatherâ effects projected by a smaller, more fragile device at the star, the name of which I forget. The effectâs system-wide, and drops instantly if the device is destroyed.
So, probably itâs a spacetime tweak the Triglavians are using to make the system more favorable to their preferred tactics (all Triglavian ships cross-rep). If it were a microorganism infestation of the kinds found in the Abyss (bioluminescent clouds and such), it seems like it should be more persistent.
Not that we donât need to worry about the Triglavians deploying bioadaptive tech, mind. This is likely to be a terrifying time for any civilians still trapped in the system, and itâs not hard to imagine the Triglavians taking a hand in âhelpingâ them.
âYes, your starâs now black. No, itâs not going to be producing quite the kind of light and warmth youâre used to. No, you probably canât survive as you are. But-- here, let us help you with that.â
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