[Discussion] Community Safety in EVE Online

Nobody wants a repeat of Blizzard. Good luck with all of this, you’ll need it.

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I think perhaps this may not be the best time to open discussion, whilst there’s still so much drama floating around the topic… That being said, it’s open now.

The idea of implementing new safety features and procedures shows that your willing to take action, which is great. But ultimately this kind of incident is something that nobody can ever hope to control.

Set out clearly what behaviour is / is not acceptable, provide a platform where people can separately report abuse like this, and handle it according to your code of conduct. Perhaps discourage the sharing of personal information in a sandbox environment (after all, all this personal info would have had to have come from somewhere).

We are all immortal spaceship captains here, real life is separate for a reason. Regardless of who said/did what, Eve Online is still a fictional Universe and real life matters shouldn’t be a part of it, no matter how public or prominent the person is. There have been past examples of certain individuals using public platforms to defame/bully members of the community, and they were handled accordingly.

Some people just need reminding about this.

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Go woke, go broke, as we’ve seen with many companies over the past two or three years. EVE is a harsh environment. Always has been. That’s all that needs to be said here…

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Yes. Its great fun for them. Some are bored, some want just to make ISK’s. There is no respect or fairness. It just starts with this little things. Some will say “EVE is just for the Elite! Its a harsh enviroment!” and after that they cry tons of tears if CCP is raising the prices because the playerbase did shrink.

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There is a difference between the woke and being too sensitive vs harboring illegal activity such as turning a blind eye to ppl within your organization/alliance/corp or whatever sharing child porn and allegedly grooming minors into illegal sexual activity etc. I don’t care about all the alleged homophobia and other non-illegal speech as long as it doesn’t go into the territory of actual threats, but some of this ■■■■ needs to be call out… Especially anything absolutely illegal.

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I got told by CCP to rename my character once on a alt, because the name was ‘Warzone TheChinks’ - Chinks is one of my dogs names… Unsure how that violates as racist…

But definately they allow these, because why not.

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In Germany is a phrase for all that:

Whoever sows wind, will reap storm!

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CCP needs to be much more specific about what the heck is going on than this. Many people are assuming this is just another WOKE agenda when it likely is not. There was some major actually illegal drama involving sexual grooming, child porn, death threats, doxing, and other major things. What you guys wrote basically sounds like another “oh they called me gay and that’s bad” type of milquetoast woke bull poop.

Be specific in what you are trying to address, and call out obviously illegal activity quickly and immediately.

What is direct evidence? A screenshot, a copy of a discord channel, or a forum post? Out of client interaction can be and have been in the past altered to make certain individuals look bad. As CCP opens up the floodgates (and it seems they already did), a wave of fabricated or “found” evidence can be available about literally anyone.

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What is said or done outside of EVE on other platforms should have no bearing on actual EVE gameplay, nor does CCP have the responsibility of policing players outside of the game environment. You’ll never know for sure who said what anyway. Anyone can use a throwaway e-mail address, a prepaid credit card, and a VPN. CCP has no way of knowing who is who with any degree of certainty…

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Not a good start. Even if the subject is wrong, fabricating fact or trolling that’s a poor demonstration of how things will be different.

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I mean, seriously, what are you going to do? Start banning players that have a rebel flag on their wall while they are livestreaming EVE? Are we reaching that level of woke BS?

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That is something for the police? Has nothing to do with the game? I thought its all about player behave.
One question, what is doxing?

Doxing is publicly displaying a players personal information, such as real name, address, phone number, etc…

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Some of this took place at officially sanctioned events and/or in officially sanctioned services which is why it is being directly associated to CCPs response to the potential of future situations. I agree with one of the other poster’s comments above, I think there’s a segment of the community that is aware of why CCP was prompted to post this, and another segment that is blissfully unaware of the context.

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Sadly finding the attacker is almost impossible if they are even semi-decent at it. Speaking from experience sadly.

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Long story short, if someone is actually threatening you in-game with physical violence, the best course of action is to contact law enforcement. There is little or nothing that CCP can do about it.

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THX
This is also for the police, it violates the Data Protection Act

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They will use ship names in different languages. Been done in the past and will be done again, not to mention words that mean different things in different languages. An old friend of mine had the word “pina” in his character name, which in Hungarian translates to female genitalia. He got banned for two weeks, then forced to change the name as it was “offensive”.

Fag is an old English term for cigarettes and have been used against a lot of people to label them homophobes.

Players of some nationalities name their ships after massacres, tragedies, etc. It’s been a trend for a long time, I don’t think it’s CCP’s job to police them. You can take out a ship and shoot them if they offend you.

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False allegations need to be dealt with as well, especially if they’re malicious, like these are.

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