For Folks who are 'Leaving'

[una_noche_mas]

@Destiny_Corrupted

If you’re going to post anything in agreement with what I say, make sure to provide evidence that you aren’t my alt. Screenshot of accounts tied to your e-mail address from the account management page, browser history, router and geolocation logs, a selfie of you holding your passport and driver license, etc. You don’t want the geriatric to gum at you with accusations of being a sock puppet that will end your EVE forum-posting career in shame and disgrace.

wtf???
Also, you are DAMN RIGHT! About the bias.

[Richter_Talon]

I am so horribly, horribly confused.

I mean… that’s pretty much Eve in a nutshell, but still…

[Ramona_McCandless]

Do you know whats wierd?

BAttlefield 2042 has no scoreboard, leaderboard or chat between teams.

Its like they dont want too much competition in their PvP…

ON TOPIC (ish): It used to be the case that no post was deleted except extreme edge cases for historic posterity. I guess that’s not important either.

[Richter_Talon]

I am honestly surprised the threads on the mining changes haven’t been locked down. They’re staying primarily on-topic, but a lot of them are essentially “I’m leaving because I’m pissed off, and now you’re ALL going to hear about it!”

[Ramona_McCandless]

I think its perfectly fair for people who cannot read the blog to show us how many Orcas are going to be sold for under prodcution cost on the market in a fit of rage.

Er I mean, yes I also am surprised.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Ramona_McCandless

BAttlefield 2042 has no scoreboard, leaderboard or chat between teams.

Say hello to your “nu gaming” overlords.

[Ramona_McCandless]

Nintendo, is that you?

[Terminal_Insanity]

Let’s say you have a favorite steakhouse, you go to it every friday night.

And after 10 years of going there, enjoying the environment, the company, the food… the owner of the place sells.

And the new owners are vegans. and they remove steak from the menu. And they redecorate the place. And they start playing different music.

@Mike_Azariah

What I do not get is . . . why.

If you are hoping to change the game, make the devs listen

How many more years of trying, are we expected to do? They do not listen. They simply do not listen.

Look at the skill window. Its still ■■■■■■. They do not listen.

They do not listen.

They do not listen.

They do not listen.

[Carmanah]

@Terminal_Insanity

And the new owners are vegans. and they remove steak from the menu. And they redecorate the place. And they start playing different music.

Maybe it’s the choice of analogy, and maybe I’m old, but I remember a time when that kind of thing happened, you just stopped going. Usually, pretty quietly in fact. You likely lamented it to a few friends, but eventually you moved onto plan B. Or you gave it a try to see if you liked it.

You didn’t do the real-life forum equivalent of standing in front of the entrance screaming your disappointment to every new person who walked into the door. Or, even worse, hang out in the restaurant and repeatedly tell the patrons there how -pick an adjective- they are for continuing to enjoy the experience.

[Xucca]

It’s the analogy.
I’d say the restaurant just changes admin and they switch ketchup brand or meat provider, while the menu looks more appealing and the prices skyrocket…
Better?

In the end, a worm in a meat joint platter is not as cute as in a salad bowl at the veggie place, right? You wouldn’t complain with the same decibels, wouldya?

See? poor choice of analogy.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

@Carmanah

You didn’t do the real-life forum equivalent of standing in front of the entrance screaming your disappointment to every new person who walked into the door. Or, even worse, hang out in the restaurant and repeatedly tell the patrons there how -pick an adjective- they are for continuing to enjoy the experience.

They don’t stand in front of the entrance or hang out inside because now a days people use social media, like google, yelp, youtube, twitter, Facebook, etc.

These forums are no exception, they’re just another facet of social media…

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Carmanah

Maybe it’s the choice of analogy, and maybe I’m old, but I remember a time when that kind of thing happened, you just stopped going. Usually, pretty quietly in fact. You likely lamented it to a few friends, but eventually you moved onto plan B. Or you gave it a try to see if you liked it.

You didn’t do the real-life forum equivalent of standing in front of the entrance screaming your disappointment to every new person who walked into the door. Or, even worse, hang out in the restaurant and repeatedly tell the patrons there how -pick an adjective- they are for continuing to enjoy the experience.

Preach. He’s been crying about the skill window like it murdered his mom LOL.

@DeMichael_Crimson

They don’t stand in front of the entrance or hang out inside because now a days people use social media, like google, yelp, youtube, twitter, Facebook, etc.

These forums are no exception, they’re just another facet of social media…

Shouldn’t you be endorsing more trolls

[Isagar_Onnlin]

Is extremely common, for both males and females, when one is leaving what they have come to consider to be a bad relationship to read the other party the riot act before walking out and slamming the door behind them.

Especially if they feel that, rather than just having grown apart, the other party has destroyed the relationship. Happens worldwide, all the time, every day, regardless of culture.

How can you have failed to understand that? Or, perhaps you realize I’m right now because it’s the same damn thing.

The end of a relationship blended with a sense of betrayal.

[Nico_Christened]

Few aren’t angry about Eve anymore. High-sec and industrial playstyles have been changed too much. A number of players don’t even think it’s fun anymore. Spending over a year training to fly a Rorq and building an industrial core from the ground up isn’t some cheap goal. People put TONS of effort into it only to have some of the worst changes I’ve ever seen shoved down their throats with little to no warning. Rorqs are basically floating targets now with a fraction of the value they used to provide for the risk of putting them on the field.

Unless you’re a high sec ganking targeting cheaply fit barges and/or alpha miners, CCP generally has no interest in protecting your playstyle at this juncture. The devs are far too erratic and unpredictable. The game feels anything but stable, and after a while people just lose interest and stop caring. I know multiple dudes that still haven’t came back since CCP swiss cheesed high sec and now even more are quitting. Heck, even I might unsub too b/c I’m not sure who I’ll know to even play with at this point. And no, ‘you’ can’t have my billions.

[Xuxe_Xu]

@Nico_Christened

And no, ‘you’ can’t have my billions.

Ok…no liquid isk then, got it…can I have just your stuff?

Rather than unsubbing, make new friends.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Nico_Christened

Unless you’re a high sec ganking targeting cheaply fit barges and/or alpha miners, CCP generally has no interest in protecting your playstyle at this juncture.

Your viewpoint is rooted in (albeit understandable) bias. The gankers you say are “protected,” their play styles have been nerfed into the ground or outright removed as far as ten years ago. These were the low-sec pirates, the high-sec war fighters, and the mercenaries that operated in all areas of space until CCP obliterated their play styles with gameplay changes like the addition of new travel mechanisms such as wormholes and filaments, the effective removal of wars from the game, and the hyper-proliferation of super-capital ships and favoritism of grind-centric null-sec coalitions, respectively.

Ganking is literally the only form of piracy left in the game, and the only reason why CCP can’t nerf that into the ground as well at the request of the crying masses is because it’s the sole remaining inflationary check in the game. The entire reason why CCP is nerfing mining and industry now is because it’s totally out of control and not being balanced out by the requisite amount of PvP to keep the economy healthy. Just go and look at the first chart of the monthly economic reports over the past few years.

[Aisha_Katalen]

Killing or ransoming mission runners is still a thing although with the piracy code being forgotten more and more customers won’t trust a ransom deal. Ransom wardecs still happen, ransoming in WH space happens in a small time “pay or get evicted” kind of way.

But yeah, most options for high sec encounters have been removed or, very conveniently, changed their mechanics as a “side effect” of other changes. That has been going on since the days of CCP Greyscale.

Most folks adapted by forming Voltron with massive wardec groups, others went/were pushed in to ganking. Personally I don’t do either and still do the options that do exist.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Destiny_Corrupted

Your viewpoint is rooted in (albeit understandable) bias. The gankers you say are “protected,” their play styles have been nerfed into the ground or outright removed as far as ten years ago. These were the low-sec pirates, the high-sec war fighters, and the mercenaries that operated in all areas of space until CCP obliterated their play styles with gameplay changes like the addition of new travel mechanisms such as wormholes and filaments, the effective removal of wars from the game, and the hyper-proliferation of super-capital ships and favoritism of grind-centric null-sec coalitions, respectively.

Ganking is literally the only form of piracy left in the game, and the only reason why CCP can’t nerf that into the ground as well at the request of the crying masses is because it’s the sole remaining inflationary check in the game. The entire reason why CCP is nerfing mining and industry now is because it’s totally out of control and not being balanced out by the requisite amount of PvP to keep the economy healthy. Just go and look at the first chart of the monthly economic reports over the past few years.

Preach. My playstyle is gone. I’d much rather be in low but its just untenable. I mean you can live there, but it isn’t exactly a target rich environment anymore except for a few systems.

@Aisha_Katalen

Killing or ransoming mission runners is still a thing although with the piracy code being forgotten more and more customers won’t trust a ransom deal. Ransom wardecs still happen, ransoming in WH space happens in a small time “pay or get evicted” kind of way.

But yeah, most options for high sec encounters have been removed or, very conveniently, changed their mechanics as a “side effect” of other changes. That has been going on since the days of CCP Greyscale.

Most folks adapted by forming Voltron with massive wardec groups, others went/were pushed in to ganking. Personally I don’t do either and still do the options that do exist.

I love ransoming. Back in the day, I ransomed far more than I killed. If you don’t pop their ship, they’ll come back

[Aisha_Katalen]

@Gix_Firebrand

I love ransoming. Back in the day, I ransomed far more than I killed. If you don’t pop their ship, they’ll come back

I always tell them to dock up and wait out their timer and if they wouldn’t then it would be on them. Surprisingly often they’d come back for seconds.

[Ramona_McCandless]

@Isagar_Onnlin

Is extremely common, for both males and females, when one is leaving what they have come to consider to be a bad relationship to read the other party the riot act before walking out and slamming the door behind them.

This is because people these days believe they must enact anything they see on TV instead of behaving like civilised persons.