I do, but you’re not one of them. You’re delusional and compensating.
Sometimes that is what is happening. Sometimes it is you starting it. It became obvious to me when I noticed that you had a gripe on him, and in all the posts that were following you managed to put in one of these pitiful passive aggressive insults.
I did. I pointed out that your abuse of “engaging” is misleading. I’ve pointed out the fact that increasing the yield of the orca would in no way or form make it more “engaging”, because there is nothing to “engage” in. It is literally a number that’s increasing. The only actual change in regards to the player’s engagement would be him having to move ore from one hold to another slightly more often.
From my perspective it looks like you believe I haven’t mined in an orca solely because I disagree with you.
You laughing about us, yet again, proves my post about you right, and you fail to realize that you’re failing to realize it.
And now I truly have to leave. Before that though I’d like to repeat the post that actually started this:
Actually if it speeds up a bit I will be more active in game.
Seriously?
It is not 15 minutes for me running two accounts and mining with a skiff and an Orca. In fact if I got even two minutes I would be amazed.
Why are you asking me, only CCP would know that, and the way they act at times indicate to me that for a long time they had no idea at all.
Boredom is one thing that drives out players, I keep doing objectives, for example the Nidhoggur I have just built is to go into deep null without any standings and using a throw away cyno to go and get some ships out. Because it is a challenge, why not. I like that part of the game. I take risks.
You say griefing, I have the opinion that it is actually fun if someone tries to grief me, no one does, and that is because they can’t. we have had an exchange before on this subject, but I will point out that part of the issue with Eve is that all the easy to grief players have left and all you have left is hard nuts like me or people who are so rich they don’t care. So your griefing play is dying and you blame CCP for it.
This is an interesting one, but hunting takes time. The objective is the key thing in terms of that, so my request for a slight buff to the Orca was to hurry it up a bit. Do you get it?
If you were being honest you will find that he starts on me first and I take the mick out of him in a passive way, I think he is a sad plonker, he follows me around with attack posts, and what can be sadder than that. These forums are moderated and have rules so I have to be passive.
And this is where you are wrong and I have already explained it in that I am more active with the client in managing my mining and as I reach my objective quicker I can go and do more fun play.
What you are saying is…, there you go again, the reason is that having mined in an Orca and compared it to my skiff I find out in real terms just how much worse it is and why I think a 20% increase would be fine, I was actually basing it at the same level as the skiff for a reason which Solonius picked up on.
Yes I laugh at you, I don’t take you seriously at all.
That makes me a very easy target, that is what stupid men do!
Stop playing the victim
You started flinging at people long before I arrived. Kinda like an entitled person. my way or the highway isn’t a manner of discussion, and it’s the only way you’ve been talking here. That and calling people names just because you don’t want to accept they’re right @Dracvlad.
The line between self-confidence and arrogance is very thin, I’m sure many here will agree you’re on the latter’s side.
You still haven’t told me your definition of edgy by the way @Dracvlad
And to add onto that, I love the amount of post-scriptums you keep adding on your posts. It’s worse than Salvos’ at this stage
No, the lowest level of yield would be the procurer. Which the Orca already beats. And thats the point.
Why did you choose the skiff over the Procurer, by the way?
Yes, talking about mining barges when talking about a comparison between mining barges and industrial command ships is off topic… Wait, what?
Sure.
But before i get into this, lets continue.
You are talking about yeild. And I understand why you dont want to talk about anything else, because it demonstrates why your argument is wrong.
You said before that it costs more isk and more skill requirements(which is wrong, and ill get to this in a second), but thats the point. The orca receives a massive EHP buff, massive Ore hold, AND the ability to provide boosts at a bonus amount.
AND THATS WHAT YOURE PAYING FOR!
Dont ignore that, because mining yeild isnt the only stat for the Orca. Its incredibly disingenuous, when all the other mining barges are essentially divided by these three stats.
You are comparing yield to damage and resist type balance adjustments by saying it as you did, that is not a fair comparison and you know it.
The procurer is slightly lower that the Skiff, but I used the Skiff as a comparison because I was using it and could see the direct difference in real use.
This was not about the differences between the different mining barges and exhumers, this is about the real yield of the Orca in actual use as compared to the tankiest mining barge and exhumer. I am not comparing min/max stats with totally perfect conditions such as sitting at 0 on every roid all the time.
I am talking about a slight increase in yield to reduce the hit from having to get next to roids and the time the drones move back and forth.
As for your whine about Orca EHP I pointed out the huge majority of Orca’s get blown up when travelling through the pipes not in the belts so no, no reduction in EHP is warranted for this piddly small slight adjustment in yield.
Being disingenuous again, the skills to get the full use out of the Orca take a lot longer to train then the mining barges and exhumers, what you linked is just the training to sit in the thing. Is that the best you can do. Anyone with a brain can see that what you did there is a hatchet job.
PS The Edgy one does not even know that there are mining drone specialisation skills either, once again proving his acute ignorance…, not a surprise.
And yet he can’t keep away just like you, and that is because you and he are unable to debate the point made, so all you can do is personal insults which is about all you have left.
In this thread I have defined the basis of my suggestion, I have detailed the change, I have detailed how I compared it and why using the min/max and paper yield is not quite correct, I have detailed that yield is different to other balance factors such as DPS, EHP in terms of PvP. And all I get is personal attacks and stupid comments like yours. Go back to counter strike mate.
Above in this thread I made a case for a slight increase in yield based on real use of the Orca and the Skiff, not one of you is able to counter it without resorting to insults and sleight of hand replies which are easily countered, so in come the insults, it is all you have left.
And as for @Nicolai_Serkanner all you have to do is look at the way he exchanged with @Brisc_Rubal in the war dec discussions to see that personal attack posts are his forte, and they are simplistic jabs to boot.
I want to make you lot work for your kills, why should I make it easy for you?
The suggestion is to increase the role bonus for drone ore mining yield on the Orca from 100% to 120% reasoning is detailed above with multiple discussion points made.
The answer changes slightly depending on how detailed you want it to be.
He always behaves like this. Same in real time chat. He’s so full of himself, he literally blocks out any and all criticism, legit or not. He ignores important parts because his brain rejects it before he can even consciously process it. He’s a white knighting carebear and his behaviour is pretty close to that of your typical toxic SJW, including pityful, passive aggressive cowardice.
The answer: He’s a MASSIVE slave to his ego, who can’t deal with the fact that he’s being wrong. He sees himself as correct, because what he wants makes sense in his world and he doesn’t recognize or care if it’s actually ■■■■■■■■ for the rational rest of the world. He’s the self-proclaimed victim of people who aren’t actually trying to tell him why he’s wrong, but are actually trying to bully and troll him.
at people long before I arrived. Kinda like an entitled person. my way or the highway isn’t a manner of discussion, and it’s the only way you’ve been talking here. That and calling people names just because you don’t want to accept they’re right 
