Oh boy, love this change…i’m all for it!
GO GO CCP WOO HOO
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without the ever shifting terrain, no free intel and system effects it wouldnt be wormholes. i dont see how permanent holes would make anything even. NS local has been a crucial part of making null the safest part of eve. this change makes it so null is at least a little more dangerous, and not just a giant hug box for carebears.
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Regardless, the big names will be able to offer a protected area, with scouts on gates and tracking sigs, etc, and backup on demand. Realistically, it doesn’t change anything for members of the big groups who are happy to follow instructions.
That isn’t too bad an idea.
Sure, but people will say this is open to abuse where a blue can open a cyno to prevent a red one from being lit nearby.
The mechanics in which a cyno operates could do with some randomness. Ships getting lost, ships showing up in random spots in the destination, fuel consumption fluctuations, damage from jumping over a certain % of maximum range.
Otherwise its just application of a mathematical formula to arrive at a certain outcome.
I am not from a block, I’m just a simple basi pilot that used to do incursions before eve became too much for my MacBook to run.
You are = You’re. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. 
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The crazy requirements a bot will need to operate in a blackout environment effectively will be crazy. I’ve wondered if an EVE botter will end up creating the first sentient AI and it’ll become cruel and hateful of humans because of the game its forced to work in.
The really hard core ones would subscribe just so they can unsubscribe…
So they bot in HS and cause of that luverly concept of skill farming they can have hundreds of omega bots that mine for x min log off and change. Rinse and repeat.
or maybe Alpha is enough. Wonder what 10 alphas can earn per hour going 24/7 and switching every x hours.
CCP needs the numbers so I don’t think they care other than to be seen to be doing something.
BOtters are bad but stopping them is not going to be done by delaying local.
read Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread
you don’t have to be quaking in your boots about blopsers. Its seriously not that bad, if your not bad.
I think that more people will resub. Because of reasons I’ve mentioned enough times now even recently that I’m tired of repeating it.
And no, any mechanic that keeps local at all is a bad mechanic, especially if it is segregated as that will just make it easier for people who AFK mine or bot to just keep AFK mining and botting.
You are forgetting rule 1.
Make is simple, stupid.
If a player has not left a system within the communal intel, hammer out a locator (easy as hell and I am sure LocatesRUs will be making a huge comeback). If player has not left system during locator run, chances are they are afking. I am running a few locates now to refresh my memory but I am certain there was a way to work out if an individual was online or not.
You are however failing to comprehend that botters (the human element) do not operate as individual lone wolves; they have entire corps dedicated to 24/7 botting and they have humans online. Hell even the well know “Paid to farm” gang (cannot say which nation but you know who) had humans overwatching the bots; they ran 12-20 characters but had overall control.
You dehumanise and infantilize these individuals so you can feel morally superior to them without realising that they are a damn sight more motivated to do things than you are. To many this is there income. While I despise what they are doing, that does not mean I cannot understand them and the lengths they will go to make things work, and how CCP are abdicating their responsibility to solve the botting issue without crapping all over legitimate small alliances who do not have the capacity to have 30-40 titans on standby to jump in and save them.
CCP knows who is botting, they know how far up the chain of leadership RMT goes. They refuse to act in the proper fashin (by mass banning all botters and those in alliances that profit from RMT) because it would be a PR disaster of epic proportions and would see most of nullsec fall apart especially if they actually followed through on their promise to disband any alliance that had the stain of RMT.
Again, CCP are fundamentally cowards, so instead they push this feature through knowing that the Gen Zero autist from Reddit will defend them to the hilt.
/thread really.
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That is precisely what I keep saying, thanks for the reinforcement. Nothing will change for active players.
Everything will change for lazy players. Or botters, or anyone that is being a slacker.
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While the smaller alliances will get shat on and farmed into falling back to lowsec.
So much for CCP and “Nullsec for all”.
oh? What do you got for me then? I moved out at 16 and worked as a bouncer for close to 10 years. Come on little Beta, show me your big scary words while you cry about having your safe space taken from you.
Grow up, a real Alpha doesn’t need to insult others to prove their strength or quality as a man. Insults like yours are the sign of a small man and it leaves me feeling dirty to talk to you on your level. Now if you’ll excuse me I have to go get ready for work.
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Bot in hisec for that sweet sweet hisec ore?
But seriously though. While it’s significantly cheaper to setup and significantly easy to program it’s also limited in the ore it can mine and with high traffic it might be easier to get caught. (for the most part) I feel like since hisec botting doesn’t seem to be a problem now despite its simplicity I don’t think it’ll become a big problem post blackout.
Oh the hypocrisy, being so alpha by throwing around insults.
Go home before the village realises it’s idiot escaped.
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What kind of monster are you?
Butter, lots of butter.
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Okay, so it sounds like you’re a botter.
And no, I can guarantee they don’t work any harder than I do. I run my own company. I also grew up poor to the point I was hospitalized for malnutrition, I’ve been homeless and joined the military to get out from that, am partially disabled, and still work. I’ve seen all the roads in and out of game. I also work at something that actually matters and isn’t a scam or illegal. So frankly, fuckem.
You don’t need a super fleet to learn to play the game and not be blopsed. Read further up and you’ll read how I didn’t give a ■■■■ about blopsers in nullsec with a small 300 on paper corp with a MAXIMUM sp requirement of 15m. So… yeah. you’re argument falls as flat as your EEG.
If you really believe that strongly about CCP, then please feel free to biomass your ■■■■, leave, and please for gods’ sake dont come back. The avg IQ of eve will massively increase in this case.
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What a joke. CCP bans several thousand accounts for botting ever quarter and they have no qualms about banning prolific players pending investigation. Your silly to deny that as they banned brisk or whatever his name was while they investigated him. Then unbanned him after.
EDIT: CCP is clearly clearly on the “better safe than sorry side” of the fence when it comes to botting and RMT.
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Believe the hype if you wish, the adults will be over here laughing.
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And cosmic sigs that may or may not be wormholes adds even more uncertainty
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Exactly. And until they make a sophisticated enough bot to scan sigs and fly around in jspace, I think these people screeching are wasting everyone’s time.
Edited to be more readable for those with seriously weak constitutions – or more likely, dissenting viewpoints.
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