omg he’s still typing. must have really triggered him.
False. The cloaked ship can get within blasting range. From there it can uncloak and blast you in seconds. It can also gather intel on your activities and patterns, and that information can be used to blast you more effectively. All that is part of why this thread exists.
Jeez, yet another one? 
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You know the old saying, there is one born every minute 
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And everything after that is off topic. In fact this is off topic, he cannot get within range if AFK.
Who steers? 
This is the A F K Cloaking thread. Please do not discuss non-AFK actions.
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That is not what you said. You said:
Lots of people talking about VMAK cloaked ships too. If you wanted to specify AFK, you should have.
Why didn’t you tell that to people who brought up non-AFK, non-cloaked ratting?
Because its just not that simple, that’s why. And also you didn’t get pissy with them for whatever reason.
And as ever, it is unbelievable how much trouble people have dealing with unknowns. Only the AFK person knows when they are AFK, so whether that cloaked ship can uncloak and hurt you in the next few seconds, only the AFK person knows if its even possible. Players end up reacting to ghosts, or failing to react to what they think are ghosts and paying an in game price for a situation set up by someone not even playing the game. That’s BS. Some might enjoy the results, but its still BS. The BS might be necessary with things as they are, but that does not mean things need to stay as they are just to keep BS alive. BS should be banished whenever possible.
Good point. Local needs to be removed and then AFK cloaking will end.
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Sounds like y’all needs to stop being cowards and coming up with fantasies about a mythical hunter who is always behind you like a boogieman?
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Honestly you have it backwards. See the thing is that after years and almost 7000 posts you have not brought anything new to the table. It’s the same arguments that have been hashed out many times over.
At some point the answer becomes, nope. That isn’t unsconstructive. It is simply a no, try again with something new.
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And if were not for most of those posts being useless, maybe half not even touching the topic, so many just typed for the sake of grief, I might have caught the post or posts that said 100 percent of everything I offered.
Or you could link me up. Or give me a quote or two. Or even name the person or people who already said it all.
And if you do link me up, I really want to see a post or posts that suggested the afk pilot 1) has Aura take over and 2) try to warp and/or jump to a safe station. Hell, I have not even yet suggested yet that this results in align time so fast they are guaranteed to survive the trip.
Plus you all took your sweet time suggesting I said nothing new. The whole slug fest since my first post here could have been avoided quite easily in saying that sooner, if true, with a bit of proof. But something tells me avoiding the slugfest was never the goal.
Nope. The sole purpose of this thread is to mock people who are clueless enough to lobby for nerfs to AFK cloaking. You’re nothing more than a punching bag here.
100 percent of everything I offered
Literally 100%? No. But the implementation of “you can’t go AFK anymore” doesn’t really matter, it’s still the same terrible idea at its core and it isn’t going to happen.
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I am not lobbying. That play style does not affect me. I literally don’t care about it. I am just interested in ideas and discussion.
As if there is any significant difference between mocking people online and having an online slugfest. Its all still the same trolling garbage and the only actual reason you are even responding further is to troll some more and you know it. The talk never hurt you. You are not forced to read. But you openly admit to being here to mock people and turn them into punching bags. You got issues buddy.
You could easily just be quiet and let people talk away. Well maybe not with those issues.
Do you realize these talks are how people learn to EVE? Do you even care at this point?
Or I could make sure that people like you are aware that their ideas are terrible. It’s important that bad ideas are thoroughly destroyed so that newbies reading this thread don’t start thinking that the pro-RMTing side has a point.
I literally don’t care about it.
The sheer number of words you have spent on posting and defending your terrible ideas for buffing RMT botting would seem to dispute the claim that you don’t care.
It has been explained over and over again: you are posting a solution in need of a problem. There is nothing wrong with the current state of things aside from your weird insistence that AFK MUST BE REMOVED. And the obvious and inevitable consequences of your changes make them unacceptable, so there’s no point in discussing them any further.
Not what I said. YOu are neither reading nor thinking. I said BS such as AFK directly affecting VMAK player’s decisions is BS and SHOULD be removed if possible, and I will now add practical.
All you are doing is explaining why you are unproductive on the forums. You lack the capacity and seek to make up the difference with bile.
If you don’t want to flesh that accusation out yourself, learn to link posts. FFS
That’s absurd nitpicking. The only way that influence can be removed is to remove AFK players entirely, otherwise you’ll still complain that a non-AFK player was somehow “influenced” by them.
You don’t understand how this works. You want to propose a change, you have the burden of proof in establishing that a problem exists. You have utterly failed to do so.
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Once again I go back to the very proposal to even create this game. Since the lack of EVE could not be qualified as a legitimate “problem” at the time, people like you would kill the discussion and EVE would never exist. Ideas are not always about problems. Talk is not always about solutions.
That’s false. I never said AFK players in stations were a problem and I presented a way to do this without removing AFK players in stations…literally drop their ass into a station. Jesus Christ man. Just get the hell off my back if you can’t follow what I say…or won’t.
Well I need to make a fresh reply and explain the lack of influence of a docked AFK player. For one, they may not be able to dock in a null system at all, and so, as I wrote, could be sent out of system to be docked there.
Plus knowing where they are its easier to camp them. Plus they cannot probe you from a station, or even make a guess from dscan. It massively lessens their influence.
Plus, you can have an ALT at the station and know if they undock ie are actually playing the game.
IOW, “make RMT botters safer because it’s unfair that they don’t have perfect intel on when a threat is in the system”. No.
Seriously, the only way any change to AFK mechanics will happen is if local is removed and you have already rejected the idea of removing local. There is no plausible scenario where local remains but the one thing keeping it from being a 100% effective tool for avoiding PvP threats is removed.
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