I thank you for your integrity reflected in your edits. With exception to the Empress, we all make mistakes. When one recants their admittedly erroneous statements, it bolsters the perceived validity of those that are not.
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The idea of an āoutpostā generally denotes a lesser presence that, while it may have some defenses, is not truly a fortification so much as simply aā¦ foothold, an embassy, a minor encampment to enable some rudimentary operating presence.
A ābastionā, on the other hand, is a true fastness, a stronghold, intended to see vast arrays of hostile forces break upon its walls like waves against a cliff-face. It is a place of strong defense and unconquerable fortification. 1DQ1-A is a bastion.
They are vastly different concepts. You might as well call a Punisher a titan.
And to ignore that difference would require ignoring all of your past attempts to twist words, take things out of context, and misrepresent the facts, like claiming that LUMEN ācollaboratedā with EM in an operation where the Amarr set the agenda, or your repeated insistence that failing to shoot at Minmatar loyalists was traitorous, even when acting under the very āauspices of EDENCOMā that you now laud. In fact, your attempt to backpedal and now express support for the cooperation during the invasion that you have already decried many timesā¦ is just another example of your rhetorical dishonesty.
And letās not forget your claims about Bos I.
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You know whatās a worse look, though? Enabling trolls for no valid reason other than because they tend to attack the same people you do.
Ooh, I am SO glad that you brought this up! Because while we on the subject of verbal pedantry, letās take a moment to recognize that calling Mizhara a ācriticā the way you do is an extraordinary bit of minimizationārather a lot like Mikal using the word ābastionā is objectionable to you. Sheās a caustic antagonist who contributes ā ā ā ā -all to any conversation she vomits words into. The signal to noise ratio is so skewed in favor of the latter that pretending otherwise is an act of deliberate dishonesty.
But heyāmaybe thereās a compromise to be had. You can cut Mikal Vektor a little slack for using an over-strong word to describe EMās dead astrahus, and he can cut you a little slack for coming to the defense of an indefensible troll. And then, maybe you can focus on the substance of the issue rather than the words used to describe it.
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I see I got out of this nonsense at a good time.
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And here I thought you remembered your time in PIE fondly.
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I actually truly do, Mikal. It is still a decent, positive and stable place for an Amarr loyalist to find their way in this mad world. It is just that I have found my path; war in the name of the Empire. So now I have to put up with a different sort of madness to walk the way God has set before me.
Your kind of madness.
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They say that only the dead have seen the end of war.
But of course, as a capsuleer, youāre immortal, soā¦ war until the end of the universe it is then, eh ?
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH. No. No, she doesnāt ātend to attack the same people [I] doā. In fact, one of the people sheās lit into the most, and the most viciously over the yearsā¦ is me.
Mmm, no. Itās not minimization at all. Sheās critical of him. Her statements are criticism. That makes her a critic. She can be that and a vicious, caustic, antagonistic pain-in-the-ass who frequently lets her biases blind her to everything except whoās putting something out there. Thatās why I said āwhen sheās rightā. Because she can be, and when she is, to dismiss her criticisms just because sheās a spiteful ā ā ā ā -stirrer whoād cheerfully cut 90% of the posters on these boardsā throats just to watch them bleed outā¦ doesnāt help you. It just leaves you with a weakness that can be easily-exploited by those who want you to make a fool of yourself.
And Mikal using the word ābastionā isnāt, in and of itself, āobjectionableā to me. He wants to call it a bastion of the Empire, he can do that. Mikal twisting the original phrase while claiming he isnāt the source of the specific word he introduced? Well, thatās just easily-demonstrated lies that only serve to further damage what little credibility heās got left. Doing that while feigning outrage that Miz would do something similarā¦ that makes him a hypocrite.
Except, you know, Iām not defending her. Nothing Iāve said has been a defense of Mizhara Delāthul. Mizhara Delāthul is a right ā ā ā ā ā and a royalā¦ no, downright imperial-sized pain in my ass on the regular. Also, she doesnāt need me to defend her.
No, see, where you think Iām defending her, I couldnāt give two fedo farts who heās responding to. Iām just pointing out how all of his nonsense isnāt helping him any, and his arrogant dismissal based on blatant hypocrisy really only makes him look even stupider.
And really, Jackal, you should know me well enough to know that I have no interest in compromising with him. Heās a fool, a liar, and a coward, and heās the pathetic worm that has to live with being him.
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You say the nicest things.
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We are always one clone failure away from it.
The universe is quite big, quite old, quite durable and quite engineerable (as the precursors seem to have indicated) for any comparison with our reference of time.
Well, yes, but if Aldrith wants to paint with black paint on a black canvas, we shouldnāt be introducing shades of grey now, should we ?
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I look inside myself
And see my heart is black
I see my red door
And must have it painted black
Maybe then Iāll fade away
And not have to face the facts
Itās not easy facinā up
When your whole world is black
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Mmmm. Nope. Youāve pushed too far again, Arrendis.
You can call Mikal Vektor many things, but coward is not one of them. Not on the battlefield, and not here. Youāre not Amarrian, so you may not have the perspective required. But take it from a native daughter: anyone with the guts to criticize the over-privileged Amarrian nobles in PIE and LUMEN is providing critical accountability that the Empire sorely lacks.
OH MY GOD, SAHARA IS MIKALāS DAUGHTER ? WHAT ?!
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Letās seeā¦
In space, he believes heās immortal, that the next Mikal Vektor to wake up is still him. So heās risking nothing. If heās risking nothing, is that really courage? Or is it just safety? Do you think heād be so quick to risk his destruction if he didnāt believe himself immortal?
Hereā¦ no. As soon as he realizes heās losing, he offers downright Progodian levels of deflection, excuse-makingā¦ all before deciding itās time to pass. And like Progodlegend, he just makes himself look worse every time he opens his mouth. Stars, Iām surprised he hasnāt started yelling at people for not bringing enough dictors to the IGS.
So, yeah. Gonna go ahead and stand by ācowardā.
Oh stop. If thatās your metric, then you might as well declare that all capsuleers everywhere are cowardsāincluding yourself. Because even among those of us who view our Empyrean lives as sequential rather than continuous, death is cheap and most of our iterations are disposable.
But that theory is stupidly reductive and you know it. You know damn well there are more forms of bravery than just risking physical life. Anything that has recognized value can be risked; and the higher the risk, the more courage is required to take it. You know this damn well, too: your reputation, your social ties and social standing, your membership in your tribeāthese are all things quite divorced from the health and integrity of your physical body; and in no small number of instances, rational human beings have elected to end their own lives permanently after risking, and losing, each of those inimitable, intangible things.
Quit your ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā . Youāre approaching Vilyian levels of b.s. yourself. Here, let me help you out: the better response you should have given goes like this: āOkay Sahara, you might have a point about the coward thing. But I still have issues with . . . [etc.].ā
Speaking of cowardice: hasnāt anyone ever explained to you that admission of error is NOT a sign of weakness, but in fact the opposite? You should try it sometime, instead of digging yourself deeper and deeper into increasingly nonsensical arguments trying to prove yourself right all of the time.
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Is it? It doesnāt feel cheap to me.
Youāre the one who cited his activities on the battlefield, not me.
Yup. Which says nothing about Mikal, as he hasnāt. In fact, that exact thing: reputation, social standingā¦ thatās where heās fled from challenge. Backed his arse down real quick when Sarum turned up, didnāt he? And when he canāt win the point quickly, he flees the discussions while making all sorts of excuses. So no, I donāt think that example supports your cause, at all.
Except that I donāt think you do. I think youāre wrong.
I admit Iām wrong all the timeā¦ when I think I am. And people from all four of the empires have seen me do it, including your pal Alterari. But Iām not wrong this time.
Well thereās that old phrase: āDeath is cheap, but T2 ammunition is expensiveā
Maybe, but at least they wonāt go out taking orders from Pitts.
Over the years, a bunch of people whose names i donāt remember have told me that PIE is about to fade away and become irrelevant.
And yet PIE is still here, and they are not.
Funny, eh ?
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