Quantum cores make stations unaffordable for Joe/anne Sixpack, average EVE player

[Solonius_Rex]

@Fale_Einn

The fact that there are still tons of stations in nullsec is in direct contrast to what happened in highsec.

https://www.adam4eve.eu/stats_structures.php

The facts contradict your claim.

@Fale_Einn

Highsec is a place for anyone who wants to relax a little, for new people to learn a game with a notorious learning curve and those same people should be able to do things like deploy a station.

They can if they want to. Nothing is stopping them.

There is nothing stopping someone from flying a Blinged Raven Navy issue.

60+ Billion Isk Raven Down, Gankers Rejoice – INN

You are allowed to fly whatever you want to. Place whatever structure you want to.

But EVE has never been a place where you are perfectly safe. Where you can do things in perfect safety, where there is no risk in putting down a structure, no consequence in flying a blingy ship.

That has never changed.

@Fale_Einn

The last time I went on a tour of Goonspace (about a month ago) there were so many stations per system it made what people call structure spam in highsec look absurd. Not only were there insane numbers of them there were literally rows of keepstars surrounded by other large stations.

Again, facts are against your claim.

And Goonswarm are losing structures left and right in querious and delve. They follow the same rule as everyone else, and are subject to it as well.

You should only own a structure if you can defend it or dont care about losing it.

@Fale_Einn

Yes, what ccp has done makes them more worth killing but the only people this effected were the small groups and new people. It wasn’t spam, the cans and depots are spam, the stations were people’s homes and represented a lot of work thought and effort and ccp came along and shat in the sandbox because of the usual bunch of squeaky whiners.

Thing is, if you go to a small, remote place in hisec, you probably wont be bothered.

But again, the facts are against you.

@Fale_Einn

I know that for a fact, all of the people I’ve gotten to try Eve had exactly the same experience and didn’t like it. The one who lasted longer than a week quit because it was killing his eyes trying to squint at a UI made so small that microorganisms need better glasses. He said “it seemed like it could be fun, but everything takes to long and after a few hours of dying and not knowing why I had a terrible headache from eyestrain”.

You can change the UI size, but sure. No one is saying that EVE is for everyone. No one is saying that everyone should and can enjoy EVE.

The problem here, is that there will always be someone with a bad experience and will quit eve because of what seemed like a slight to them.

This is Abuse, and ccp has made eve pay to win. Players should be outraged and know about these issues

I am a long standing player of eve. I started my adventure in eve back in 2003. I have been parts of many alliances in eve, most in many different coalitions. I started an alt account a few weeks back. My objective this time around was not to get sucked into nullsec space politics. I formed a high sec alliance a few months ago, with the objective of healing eve, and creating a good, supportive environment for new players, something like a mix between cva and eve-uni in high sec. Mean while, I…

Look at this guy. This was before the quantum core, before the abandoned structure phase. People ganged up on his structure and took it down. Wasnt even a lot of people, was only like 20 guys max. He had a terrible experience and blamed CCP.

Some people will play Call Of Duty multiplayer, get shot in the face every round, and ragequit. Some will play Starcraft 2, lose every match and ragequit. Not every video game is for everyone. And thats okay. Theres nothing wrong with that.

What is wrong, though, is taking your immediate experience and making generalizations based on your limited views. When youre in nullsec, all you see are citadels because there are almost no NPC structures. When youre in hisec, there are tons of stuff all around you, so you dont realize and recognize the number of citadels around you. And yet, the evidence, the facts, say that you are wrong.