Risk vs Reward ninja mining

[Sgt_Ocker]

@Solecist_Project

I’m one of the few -10 in this game who stays in space all day,

So you just been sitting in space since May at which time you had a sec status of 1.51 and still do to this day? How totally boring.,.

Ahh the -10 life. If only you were one.

[Iceacid_Frostpacker]

Look i dont understand the rules here on the forums under Crime & Punishment.

Salty I might be about losing my Moon anchor point. I think now it is best to leave it all go as Crime & Punishment is not really what it means.

[Iceacid_Frostpacker]

removed before flagged off topic

[Solecist_Project]

Are you saying that you didn’t manage to deal with actual competition?

Would you agree that someone mining your ore, who is a suspect,
might actually be actual competition out to kill you?

@Iceacid_Frostpacker

Mostly moon mining is for the fun part of feeling like you are doing something that you enjoy.

No. Moon mining is for those who want better ore.

The cost of the station is ISK. The cost of doing it in highsec is that when you want to prevent others from mining that ore you have to suicide gank them. The very protection you seek from CONCORD is the exact same reason why you’re suffering.

If you had balls and brains then you wouldn’t have had to hide like the cowards you are.

Edit: Iceacid Frostpacker editted/deleted his posts before I could respond.

[baloney]

@Solecist_Project

You have been warned.

Lol scrub. I have 6 black belts in serious space ship Kung Fu. Say that to my face in game and I’ll destroy you in a flurry of shurikens

[Aiko_Danuja]

@Sgt_Ocker

Everyone knows Code don’t do nulsec

Porpoise | Preem Darell | Killmail

[baloney]

I think mining anywhere should give you a suspect flag. There’s not enough risk in mining

[Aiko_Danuja]

Miners should have to play a Tetris minigame, and if they fill up their cargohold early then they have to unload, and if they aren’t paying attention and stack fiery kernite next to mexallon then their ship explodes.

[Marcus_Gideon]

Meh… Tetris sounds lame. However, I do think a minigame of some kind would be pretty sweet.

Personally, I’d make a game where they have to search for the ore veins. If you don’t target the veins as they wind through the asteroid, then all you end up with is a cargo hold full of useless rock debris. For the bots that just go out for X seconds and then return home, they just make trip after trip with worthless rock.

[Aiko_Danuja]

@Marcus_Gideon

Personally, I’d make a game where they have to search for the ore veins.

Arcade Game: Dig Dug (1982 Namco)

[Salvador_Sinak]

My advice is to bring a tanky skiff or procurer, if the owners get pissy and try and gank or bump you, remind them that you will be back, only this time with a bunch of friends and their belt will look like day old roadkill next to a buzzard farm.

[Aiko_Danuja]

@Salvador_Sinak

remind them that you will be back, only this time with a bunch of friends

You would need friends in order for that to work.

[Nicolai_Serkanner]

FFS, use a spell checker.

[Ramona_McCandless]

Why do they think suspect flagging would stop it?

Why are they too lazy to stop it themselves?

Why Am I still bothering?

[Oleg_K77]

@Solecist_Project

That also means that in the most cases they will not be able to compete with someone who goes suspect, because that someone is - in most cases - going to be a baiter, which means the only targets they’d be shooting at is clueless people and rookies.

Sorry for offtopic, but do you get suspect timer for shooting suspect?

[Anderson_Geten]

no.

Suspect = concord gave up on them.
You still get a limited timer with the person you shot so he can retaliate.

[Daichi_Yamato]

If mining moon ore made you suspect it would stop people from doing it. It wouldn’t create the content people are pretending it would. It would simply prevent interactions between players. This is only a bad thing and is the type of nerfs that got us to the situation we have today where not much happens and the game is boring.

The other problem being hinted at is that gankers will deliberately set-up their athanors to confuse miners into mining their rocks and going suspect so they can shoot them. People will lose trust in the genuinely free moon belts.

In the end, suck it up.

Bump, gank, wardec, out mine, people who try to take ‘your ore’.

If you can’t defend it, it wasn’t yours to begin with.

[Stalter_Arjar]

I’d disagree with u there. I’ve been on both sides and disruption/harrassment/ganking is the defence. If u can’t or won’t do that then u shouldn’t have an athanor.

[Runa_Yamaguchi]

It is a strange paradox but you are right. If you want to beat the bad guy then you must know his game…Of course the inverse is also true.

[Stalter_Arjar]

Because harrassment & ganking does happen, it’s often better to have a relationship with the Athanor owners and that may involve paying an ore tax. This is especially true if the corp is well organised, have several athanors with a variety of ore and are willing to notify u of frack times. Diplomacy is good business. For the owners they get an income to cover fuel costs plus a resource of minerals that they can choose to exploit themselves if they want.