The way we talk on the forums.. Needs fixing

Most of it is inaccessible, some of the mines extend out 2+ kilometres at a depth of 700 metres under the seabed, keeping them dry and workable has become uneconomical in the face of places like China that may not have as much, but they can get to it a lot easier.

There is talk of reopening some of the mines, some of the newer tech that’s now available may make it a profitable venture again.

Bear in mind that those mines were mostly dug by hand too, an amazing achievement in anybody’s book.

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:thinking: kinda like advocating for dumbing down ship fitting and skill requirements? This whole post is so condescending and especially ironic coming from you.

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No no no.

You have it all wrong, @Naari_Naarian doesn’t have any kind of negative reputation, he’s a shining example to us all who spends his time trying to improve the game for new players. He told me so in another thread.

That it’ll remove the fun in hisec for everybody, including the new players he likes to hit up for billions of isk, is utterly irrelevant to him, it’s what he wants.

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It’s you that’s the problem.

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Never has your name been more appropriate in a thread.

I think the OP might have surpassed whatever alt balos is posting with this week with this bad boy.

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Actually, Im attempting to correct an issue that iv noticed, in an effort to bring about more meaningful and productive conversation.

What is interesting is that if this was to take place we’d be able to tell ccp collectively what we have agreed upon and its a lot more influential for the majority or all the players saying the same thing, then just one or two.

That is the intent of this post.

Get use to the idea of complexity going out of the game, ccp is saying they are looking for ways to remove it. Its been to high for to long, your beating up a bush that has no real future anymore.

either get with the program and help change it in a way that betters both you and those who are unable or unwilling to commit to the high complexity levels, or suffer the consequences of what is to come.

CCP have specifically said complexity is not bad. Stop lying about what CCP have said.

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Can you please write down a post with what we as a collective have “agreed” upon?

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You have failed.

You only managed three posts before you revealed your true self.

Time to re-roll, re-infiltrate and try again.

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Nobody cares that all of the evidence suggests that you scammed people, we care that you did it to new players.

Lowest of the low that is, far worse than anything the goons that you so obviously have a hardon for, have ever done.

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Argh was typing a reply to your post then you changed it entirely. :stuck_out_tongue:

'twas a deliberate move to confuddle anyone that was quick off the mark :smile:

Especially the person it was aimed at as they’re rather fond of word games and logical fallacies; he’s crap at the former and the latter seems to be his natural state of being.

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Actually CCP Hellmar said it is indeed a problem, especially on retaining new players.

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When it is in the wrong place yes, but they also specifically said that complexity is not bad and they don’t want to remove complexity just because it is complexity.

Dude, how can you even say that?

Over the years CCP has consistently lowered skill requirements and implemented all sorts of changes to make the game easier to play.

Very easily because they have left a lot of complexity alone and only removed complexity that served no purpose.

What he said, specified and meant is the NPE being a fricking mess with all kinds of issues and unintended problems that make life unnecessarily difficult for a new player in his first hours or days.

The NPE specifically, not the game as a whole.

Sorry but you’re sadly mistaken.

Most of the changes CCP has done to the game within the past few years has been to make things less complex and easier to do.

Otherwise known as ‘Dumbing Down The Game’.

Yeah, the biggest loss is in the first 7 days but CCP Hellmar wasn’t just talking about the NPE, that graph shows the drop over a 90 day period.

Over the years CCP has been constantly changing things in the game to be easier and less complex, those who say otherwise are lying.