Triglavian Fleet Destroying Pods and Ships in High Sec - November 2020

That will be a learning for me as well. But I wonder: I was under the assumption that even players who never participated in any Triglavian invasion event still got a default Trig standing of -0.01, right? So that would mean that even if you didn’t choose a side, you’ll still be ganked by the roaming fleets in Hisec.

Yes (you started at zero, but trigs are red at zero). There was a short period in the beginning where shooting one EC frig gave you +0.0001 standing which made you neutral to both factions for the entire event. After that event when dual standing ticks were officially introduced it is even easier now to whore one drone kill in Povchen and be free to travel (if you start from zero).

And one of the problems is that Edencom or Trig standings do not show up in the Character’s Standings list if they have never had any interaction with one of the two factions. So someone who is either new, or avoided this nonsense like the plague, cannot see that they have a microscopically small negative standing with the Triglavians. It is really poor game design that the only way they can find that out is by having to come to threads here.

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Not microscopically negative … it’s exactly 0 (or better technically “null”). But all pirate rats are hostile per default. That’s why trigs are red and EC are neutral at “null” standing.

But I agree, without following out of game and out of CCP media carefully (including hoboleaks), one would not be able to navigate that stuff successfully. Basically true for a lot of things CCP throws at us.

There are at least a few neutral Triglavian fleets.

My standings with EDENCOM are 0.0; actual 0.001 and they show white.
My standings with Trigs is - 0.0; actual -0.001 and they,too, show up as white.
So far all encounters have been a quick glimpse as I warp to a gate and no response from either. Hopefully, CCP coded a graduated response time based on small increments of standing changes, but…It IS CCP.

Werposts are still red to me, though.

We are, in Pochven there are fleets of EDENCOM and Drifters that camp the gates and celestials.

And … For my self I would say to f…-off to any standing content from CCP from now on

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I remember grinding standing for jump clones. Then there was an even bigger standing grind to be able to anchor highsec POSs.

Now we have the great state of Triglavia and its crazy grind.

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