Io_Koval
August 22, 2023, 8:49pm
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Monthly Ash Beldrulf complaint thread making a return? Can’t say I’ve missed it.
Edit: People are flagging this as “off topic” and it got hidden which means a moderator actually looked at my message, but if anyone actually participated in the forums and was in touch with it the topic at hand is exactly what Ash Beldrulf has been complaining about for years at this point, and it’s not just me that notices, and Ash never ever follows up nor takes advice of anyone in the thread and otherwise doesn’t participate meaningfully in the community:
Continuing the discussion from State of High Sec Indy :
Perhaps one day, @Ash_Beldrulf will learn how industry actually works, rather than making monthly forum posts about how he can’t mine it all himself so it’s not free. Apparently it is not yet that day.
And this has been repeatedly verifiable behavior:
Continuing the discussion from Why be a cog? :
Am I going to have to create a master post of your repeated complaints?
Why are you expecting CCP to do anything additional to the new status quo after delivering their final economic patch to end scarcity? They’ve been exceedingly clear this is the new normal. We went over this three months ago: And we went over this last month: It’s been several months, what all have you actually tried doing? Have you tried having fun mining in low or null sec instead and avoid pirates and bubbles? Have you reached a different economic agreement with your friends? Are you ad…
I’m sounding like a broken record but it is because you keep starting threads on the order of every month with nothing but complaints: what have you tried new? What has worked and what hasn’t? What have you learned from what you’ve tried?
My quote from your previous thread is directly applicable here :
Continuing the discussion from Disappointed :
Why are you expecting CCP to do anything additional to the new status quo after delivering their final economic patch to end scarcity? They’ve been exceedingly clear this is the new normal.
We went over this three months ago:
Sounds like you’re getting the shaft, and up until now have been OK with it. So fix it and ask your friends to split the extra ore they mine due to the boost % diff? Or pay you your fair share. There’s a million ways to address this between you and your friends without complaining about your existing bad deal on the forums. I mean, I can complain to the devs that I’m not getting a gazillion ISK/hr for [insert justification], but at the end of the day I have to deal with the reality of what the…
And we went over this last month:
Didn’t we have this discussion already, less than two months ago? If you’re mining in a Porpoise as the sole booster ship in a mining fleet with “you mine it you keep it” rules between you and your friends and are sad about it not being economically viable, then that suggests: What I said 2 months ago: reach a better deal with your friends. Split fuel costs evenly. Or, you take 50% of their boosted yield (if they are getting 16m3/s extra from your boost, you get 8m/s of it and they get 8m3…
It’s been several months, what all have you actually tried doing? Have you tried having fun mining in low or null sec instead and avoid pirates and bubbles? Have you reached a different economic agreement with your friends? Are you adding Disney+ on top of your Netflix subscription? Have you tried changing fleet composition? Have you changed goals – say to build a strategic stockpile of compressed ore to time the market in a year or two when players find an abundance of isogen but X is now 1.5x in price?
Or is your goal still to just maximize ISK/hr with arbitrary rules like “I must fly a boosting ship” or “I must mine in high sec” and “I want how it was the way before even though CCP said they weren’t going back”, and we get to look forward to the continuing recurring threads?
No one can manage your disappointment except you. If you’re not having fun nor are pleased, change up how you play the game.
Continuing the discussion from Can the CSMs please look into this :
Continuing the discussion from Indy/Mining needs fixed :
I know this post will fall on CCP’s deaf ears but since scarcity started CCP have driven players from the game.
Adding reaction/etc to some of the building was good thing but the inputs required for those items is killing indy.
To build any freighter in the game Capital Core Temperature Regulator is 1B and the 16 G-O Trigger Neurolink Conduit are 244M isk. That is 1.2 billions of the 2.5B total material cost.
All of the Navy Faction Frigates have a single 16 G-O Trigger Neurolink Conduit. A 16 G-O Trigger Neurolink Conduit is 15M isk. That is 75% of the total build cost of the Navy Faction Frigates.
Indy and mining is broken. Indy and mining is still broken because CCP want it to be broken. If CCP did not think indy and mining was great/good how it is. CCP would have changed it.
CCP you can not see or understand or will not admit what you guys have done to the game. CCP better act fast while there are still players here.
The kicker? The above ones are listed in the forums. Ash‘s others have been unlisted to cover up the sheer breadth of his complaints, so you have to save links to them because otherwise they are not discoverable:
I just spent 2 hours moon mining in High Sec. I made a whole 3.8M isk in two hours of mining without boosts or compression.
I am no longer feeling rewarded for my time in game as a miner/industrialist and dang sure don’t feel like I am getting my $20 USD worth out of this game.
It is beyond time for something in this game to change.
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