This post is intended as a reference point that anyone interested may refer to in the future to show others the kind of “participant” in these forums that our beloved @Dracvlad is.
This post is a work in progress and WILL be edited multiple times until it reaches the level of clarity, thoroughness, and verifiability I’m aiming at, which is not easy to accomplish in the kind of messy and lengthy threads into which Dracvlad purposely turns any discussion in which he participates.
How it all started and this comedy thread was born
The origin of this thread is the comments that some of us made about one of the things that a CSM candidate @Lorelei_Ierendi said in his CSM thread, specifically this:
You may see the comments I in particular made to that here. Note that I, like others, quoted what it was exactly that I was referring to in my reply.
Nowhere did Lorelei say in that or any other thread that I had misunderstood what she meant. In her reply to me, she said this (emphasis on “just” added):
Note also that nowhere did Lorelei said she wants an overall 50% chance to survive a gank, what she said she wants is at least a 50% chance to survive.
As I explained in a reply to another poster in that thread that had misunderstood what Lorelei meant, the implications of this would appear to be that, no matter how well the ganker does his job and how badly or carelessly the victim fits and flies his ship, the victim would have a 50% chance to survive the gank, whereas careful pilots would have a higher overall chance to survive as a result. Lorelei herself liked the post.
At some point Dracvlad decided to chime in and started to call me and others dishonest and pathetic trolls for having mis-represented Lorelei’s words as meaning she wants a minimum 50% suicide ganking failure rate (which is exactly what she said she wants, regardless of the fact that she was obviously also proposing other things that might have their own merit or not).
It should be noted, for those not familiarised with this stuff, that it’s absolutely impossible to achieve the 50% (or any other) minimum survival rate Lorelei said she wants without introducing chance based suicide ganking mechanics, which is at the root of our criticism and something Dracvlad claims Lorelei neither said nor implied.
During the messy discussion that followed, Dracvlad would do things like claiming I said things I never said (which is particularly funny because that’s exactly what he was accusing me of doing). When told he was lying, he completely dodged the fact and told me to go read what he had said as if I hadn’t understood it:
I had also asked Lorelei whether what she said about wanting variable CONCORD response times was how she wanted to accomplish that 50% survival rate, because her vague statements so far didn’t make it clear at all whether both proposals were even related:
When Dracvlad saw that, he reacted like this:
Again, WTF. If you are going to attack someone for what they say makes sure it is what they say and not what you think they said.
But later on, and from then onwards, he would claim that’s what Lorelei was suggesting and would blame me for not understanding that was what she meant:
That is a perfectly reasonable suggestion in regards to having a random factor in terms of the spawn time of CONCORD. It is not applying a random factor to the success of a gank which certain people tried to stick on you. These people are pathetic.
It’s so unbelievable that it may be difficult to follow, but what can be seen happened here is that Dracvlad blamed me at first for wondering whether variable CONCORD response times could be how Lorelei was expecting to accomplish that 50% survival rate, and later he would blame me for not understanding that’s what she was asking for…
Lorelei did eventually clarify that the two proposals are unrelated, i.e. she does want both variable CONCORD response times and 50% chance of survival, but doesn’t pretend to accomplish the latter with the former:
I would like to state again, that the CONCORD changes I was proposing are not part of a plan to bring the chances of surviving a gank to 50%
Interestingly enough, at the time of me writing this, Dracvlad would still keep saying things like this:
In reply to what Lorelei said, it is utterly dishonest and incorrect. The only thing suggested was a variable CONCORD response time.
After me getting fed up with his nonsense and Dracvlad repeatedly calling me dishonest and pathetic troll for going by what Lorelei had actually said instead of what he pretended she meant, I told him this:
I wish I had words to describe what I think of you without risking this post being removed for breaking the forum rules…
which made him reply with this:
@Tora_Bushido alt I think… 60% chance, perhaps you can extrapolate from that…
A few posts later during which he pretended I should create another thread to talk about all this nonsense, he finally decided to create it himself… Yes, unbelievable but true, he created a whole thread (this thread) to let everybody know that he thinks I’m “60% possibility” a Tora Bushido alt… !!!
Now, how this started is relevant, because he would later in this thread try to backpedal from that in a (futile) attempt to make it look as if he was joking, but what clearly happened is that he got triggered by me turning hostile against him and that made him believe I might be someone else in disguise that doesn’t like him either.
How Dracvlad believes whether someone is right or wrong depends on whether he's a ganker or not, and would try to make anyone that disagrees with him look like he's ganker-aligned even if he's actually an anti-ganker
This is how Dracvlad started his “contribution” to the discussion taking place in the other thread:
Multiple gankers have come into this thread and attacked the OP. […] that these gankers are coming in here and doing their normal projection trolling should indicate that if you are a hisec player and you truly care about hisec then vote for this candidate.
Nowhere did he say in that post what had those gankers said that was wrong about their criticism of the 50% survival proposal, only that anything they said should be dismissed for the mere fact that they are gankers.
And even though at that moment I wasn’t “ganker-aligned” yet, I should be dismissed too because, according to him:
he does have a sort of blind spot in terms of some of the issues
From then onwards he would feel entitled to say whatever he pleased there and call pathetic troll everybody that would dare to disagree with him and criticise Lorelei’s proposal.
He would of course also assume that, since Lorelei wanted suicide ganking to be nerfed one way or another, she had to be right, so Dracvlad would keep defending her even against her own words. Even after Lorelei had already said that she does want both variable CONCORD response times and 50% chance of survival, and that the former is not part of the latter:
I would like to state again, that I would like to have a 50% chance of getting away from a gank.
I would like to state again, that the CONCORD changes I was proposing are not part of a plan to bring the chances of surviving a gank to 50%
Dracvlad would still keep repeating ad nauseam things like these:
In reply to what Lorelei said, it is utterly dishonest and incorrect. The only thing suggested was a variable CONCORD response time.
she suggested a chance only in terms of CONCORD spawning.
You turned it into a chance based mechanism for ganking… because you wanted to attack the candidate as you are IMO ganker aligned.
How Dracvlad would try to seize the other thread, attacking other players there with completely off-topic, made up, and uncalled for stuff, only to later accuse them of trolling for replying to him
Dracvlad would repeatedly do things like the following:
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He would feel entitled to use Lorelei’s thread to attack me with made up stories and outright lies that are totally off-topic there and nobody had mentioned until he did.
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If I reply to him, he would then tell me I’m trolling the thread for replying to what he had said there himself.
An example of this would be when, in one of his posts there, he referred to me as:
a false AG who is meta gaming the AG channel
which was completely off-topic and uncalled for. When I replied to him, he said this:
I see you are still trolling a candidates thread
A more mind blowing case was when he said this in the other thread (plus other completely off-topic and uncalled for nonsense not quoted here):
I have come to the conclusion that you are in fact meta gaming AG, I do not believe you are actually interested in what AG really is
and immediately afterwards (very few mins, if any) asked this thread to be closed saying this:
I will deal with it there focussing on what the CSM candidate actually said rather than my opinion of this player and his meta gaming.
He could have used the very thread (this thread) he had supposedly created himself precisely for this stuff. But no, what he did instead is use the other thread (the thread he was saying I and others were trolling) to tell me a bunch of completely off-topic, made up, and uncalled for nonsense, only to come here immediately afterwards to say he wanted this thread closed because he wasn’t interested anymore in doing what he had just done…
But it gets better… When I noticed it, I replied showing what he had just done, only atm I wasn’t sure which of the two posts had been first, so I said he had posted both at the same time, to which he replied this:
PS I closed the thread after posting my reply above. Pathetic…
According to him, it was me, not him, who was pathetic… for having made the mistake of saying he had posted both at the same time instead of one immediately after the other… only to a few hours later, long after he had said that, he would again post a bunch of completely off-topic, made up, uncalled for garbage including this:
please stop trolling this thread.
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I put forward a view that you looked to be meta gaming the AG chat channel.
How Dracvlad would reply with unintelligible gibberish when his lies and contradictions are exposed
Typical Dracvlad reactions when his lies and contradictions are exposed include:
- Dodge the issue and try to drive attention away from it
- Talk unintelligible gibberish that nobody may understand, to make it look like he has “explained” it and it’s the reader’s fault not being able to understand the “explanation”
Examples of the former can be seen in many posts. Some of them also include examples of the latter, so only the gems worth quoting for posterity that illustrate the latter have been provided below. You may click them to see them in context and how the full post also illustrates the dodging he does:
PPS From the point I closed that thread is what I meant which was after the post above, due to you playing this game I have added a word to my post.