Knowledgeminer Vs Dracvlad thread

May I ask … what did you do/say?

Oh, but he already knows this. Actually, he mentioned it himself in a previous post, only not as an indication that there might be some truth in it, but rather as “proof” that I might be one of those too:

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Nearly every time someone brags about a CONCORD whoring kill, or some other kill irrelevant for AG purposes (e.g. empty pods), I explain (without being disrespectful in any way), why that kill has no AG relevance. I say there is nothing wrong with those kills if they do it for fun, to practice, to collect bounties, or whatever, but make it clear that there is nothing to brag about because those kills have absolutely no AG relevance. Some players understand it no problem, but some don’t like to be told that and get upset.

This has sometimes caused heated discussions when the AG pilot thought he saved the victim, even though the killmail clearly showed that what really happened is that the ganker simply failed and the AG pilot just happened to be there. Examples of this would be someone ECM jamming a 1-shot Tornado or a dmg dealing (not e-war) kill with CONCORD in it.

Also I’m very vocal against all the whining that used to pollute that channel, against being disrespectful with the gankers for the sole reason that they blew someone’s ship, against pretending game mechanics should be changed to make ganking harder, and so on…

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I see you are still trolling a candidates thread, that is a bit sad. Definitely Linus Gorp like. This is rather amusing, he would definitely be a fake AG if you are wondering.

As for the Pyscho babble, I keep pointing out just because you can link to articles about mental health means absolutely nothing. You should go and speak to real Psychologists and you will find that none of them will do any diagnosis without actually doing a number of sessions and any one who does so is a charlatan, or not firing on all their mental cylinders. Like that completely warped woman in the USA, who then got removed due to doing exactly this to Trump.

I don’t disagree with this statement apart from the fact you cannot understand where some mechanics are unbalanced which is your issue.

And I have only ever seen you do this in a nasty condescending way which is why so many people have blocked you.

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Almost thought it was a DanaLee alt… But it could be norge… Or solistice…

Or Dom,

Or I could just be listing people because I don’t care.

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No, what you saw is you thinking you’re entitled to make false claims about me there without me replying to you.

You’re the only one to blame for that. If you don’t want me to reply to your lies there, don’t post them there to begin with. Do it here instead and you’ll see I reply here too.

Yes, yes, everybody knows I’m unable to understand those game mechanics and why they’re so unbalanced, and that this is my issue… Anyone wanting to do AG should listen to you instead… :rofl:

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My word there has been progress in your attitude, well that is a start. Because for the majority of the time you were in the AG channel that was most certainly not the case. Yes they do it for fun, yes they do it for practise, some most definitely do it for the bounty, others do it for the kill marks and others because of the meta game because the gankers really hate it and get salty.

Why do they always come back with the word CONCORD whores and even more telling why have some of the freighter gankers set up with smart bombers? Of course part of the answer is to get the bounties and get them back to their homes station as soon as possible. But they don’t like it when players hit back at them. Something you have failed to understand because you do not get AG.

I have not once seen you engage against freighter gankers, and as that is where the imbalance rests you do not have any idea. And for the second part of your chest beating exercise have you seen me once say anything about the area where you excel in? No you have not. I listen to you in your area of expertise, simple that.

This is an important question, more relevant to you than me. While I have my suspicions about your motives jokes aside lets just assume that you are in fact what you say you are. Suggesting that you was Tora was in fact a joke, but you are so close to Linus Gorp in attitude it is funny.

What do you think AG is, and what do you think it could be? After all you have been highly active in the AG channel for is it three years now and apart from driving many people to block you or leave the channel, you have a private channel with three other people in it and you have not converted a single one other than the two I mentioned to your mode of operation. Isn’t that one big massive failure on your part for all your effort and elitism?

Before I go deeper into your failure, I am not saying that I have been a success either, but then again I have not really tried in any meaningful way to develop the AG player base, unlike you.

There is no denying that for the T1 and DST ganker in certain pipe systems that you are pretty lethal to them, but where are the others doing the same as you, how many have you turned into doing that? Well I see only three people in that channel with you and one of them is the person who created the AG channel in the first place.

As I tried to point out to you numerous times the AG community is not some sort of super elite chest beating focussed bling fitting relentless players like you, but mainly indy and new players who want to do something to get back at the gankers even if in a small petty way. That you are unable to work that out and run around chest beating about being elitist with these people defines everything about you. Both in stupidity and in effect.

Of course I know you are very good at what you do, but you are not good at what you really want to do and let me be very clear, I am not saying that I am either.

So when you go off after someone like the CSM candidate in such a dishonest way, I decided to take the P out of it. And I find this hilariously funny even though I know that what I am doing here is wrong too. However let me put it bluntly, you are a huge failure in terms of AG. And before you go all elitist on me I am not saying that I am any better, in fact I am worse because I have not really tried. Honesty is so refreshing isn’t it?

Just so you don’t get confused with actual gameplay and the imbalances because you will go all out of context on me, but what I mean about not trying is me not making any serious effort into developing AG into a more coherent effective body.

So there you go my attitude towards you in a nutshell, a super effective individual player as a hunter, but a complete failure in terms of making AG develop and in fact worse because you have driven people that could have been good away with your aggressive arrogant and unnecessary elitism.

PS Two hidden replies how wonderful…
PPS Once bumping has been adjusted in some way that removes the imbalances I might then get stuck in and see what develops. But at the moment the imbalance is such that it is not possible in my view for what AG is mostly made up of in terms of experience, SP and resources.

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Thing is, once normal people develop in ag they realize it is a toxic hellhole so they leave, leaving only the worst scum behind (with a very few positive exceptions like Knowledgeminer)

lol, toxic shitposter complaining about other peoples attitude. There are a few decent people trying to educate ag, but they get overwhelmed by shitposters like you.

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I think it’s telling that he calls these cancer people good people. It shows where all his white knighting comes from and, especially, shows what kind of asshole he actually is, despite all his more or less failing attempts of concealing his true self.

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As if it was true that there has been any “progress” in my attitude, or anyone cared what your word on anything is, for that matter…

Citation needed, please. Show an example here of 1 case, just one, where my attitude there has not been appropriate, just so everybody here may see what exactly it is that you’re talking about… and that you’re not just telling more lies and making false accusations again without a leg to stand upon…

ROFLMAO.

No, I haven’t engaged in that. How exactly does that imply I have no idea? You think I’m as intellectually impaired as you or what?

FWIW, the only imbalance there, if any, would be in the bumping, not in the ganking itself, something I’ve never opposed to be changed if CCP deems appropriate.

What I’m strongly against in this regard is pretending bumping is a bigger issue than it really is, or that bumping mechanics should be changed without taking into consideration how it might break other things in the game, or inane suggestions to “fix” it such as making the bumper suspect, which clearly show it is the ones suggesting such nonsense who have absolutely no clue about this…

No, again it wasn’t, and you may try backpedalling all you want now, repeating this lie as many times as you want, and it will still be a lie very easy for anyone who cares to see by just checking how it all started.

Who cares? Why would I answer this question when I can have so much fun seeing you dancing around making a fool of yourself by not answering it?

LOL. Not that it really matters, but just so anyone reading this wonders, this is another lie. I can’t wait for him saying here he knows better than me because he was in my channel for a few weeks because he was supposedly interested in learning to do AG properly… Or was it for some other reason that you were there?

ROFL.

Quoted here for posterity to show he’s proud of not bothering to help improve AG, while at the same time criticising me for trying to do precisely that (but “massively failing” at it), in the very post where the quote he included at the beginning talks about me as a “false AG”…

LOL. There are certainly others out there doing some of the things I do, not in my channel because they’re not in my area of operation, and hence there is no point in that, but which I’ve occasionally talked to privately (in addition to publicly in the AG channel).

There are also others that have been in my channel, that have flown with me even, but that are currently not there for the simple reason that they’re not playing the game atm.

But please, keep going pretending you know better than me what goes on in my channel, who I talk to and who I don’t. We all love seeing how you like to keep making a fool of yourself again and again…

Please show 1 example, just one, of a case were I’ve been unable to understand someone might not be willing to spend a lot of effort fighting the gankers and I’ve been “running around chest beating about being elitist” with him/her. Otherwise people reading this might think you could be lying (again), but we all know you’d never do that, would you?

Please, show where exactly have I gone off after her in such a dishonest way. Be sure to include what she said that I was replying to (which you’ll be able to find quoted in my post), and not something else that you’ve decided I was replying to completely ignoring the facts simply because that would better fit your narrative…

Interesting. I, on the other hand, am pretty sure what I’m doing here is right, not wrong.

ROFLMAO.

Indeed, even more so in the presence of so many lies.

I’ve driven away absolutely no one that wasn’t detrimental to AG.

You’re actually a good example of someone detrimental to AG, because you try to make others believe there is no point in even trying to fight the gankers in game, that whining about how unbalanced some game mechanics are is much better than figuring ways to counter them and use them to our advantage…

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Honesty at last, wow…

I have never suggested that the bumper just go suspect and I hope you are not suggesting that I did. I did suggest at one point that there was a counter that after it was passed would give a chance of the bumper going suspect and would not apply to the bumped ship, and that was only due to the desire not to impact bumping elsewhere in the game. I am being honest here, learning anything?

I have stated repeatedly that bumping is an issue that creates too much control and enables lazy play, resulting in the target at times being bumped for an extended period of time with the only real option to endure it.

But I am happy to see that you finally got there with the only major issue with ganking. Well more like the issue that is known as bumping and it’s impact elsewhere.

Yes it was, based on your extrapolation.

I answered it, but you don’t have the wit to understand what I said.

I was there to understand what you do, however I was looking for such content that was around my main TZ and in the general area that I was in and the content was just not there.

Can’t see I said I was proud of it. Again being honest is something I do, rather than you. I have made no real effort to do anything in terms of developing AG. One reason as I saw it as being other peoples baby, the other was that the only content that was available to me was the one where a massive imbalance imo made it not fun and a sure loss. But if bumping gets changed I might give it a proper go.

I made it quite clear that I saw it for a brief period of time, and that the people you linked the mail too were not any different to who I saw in the channel over a year ago.

In your opinion, so you got there in the end… In your post you say no one but then admit to it.

I have openly stated the advantages that bumping gives and why I will not waste time on such stale boring game play. People know my position on that. And another reason is that the freighter gankers crave people to get into a real conflict with them. I feel that because of their advantages that they have that doing the Goon method of weaponised boredom, on what is basically boring repetitive farming was the best option at this time. In fact opposing them just gave them easy bragging content and kept them more interested and motivated and was therefore not worth doing.

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Carebear defeatism.

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LOL, if you think I’m gonna help you make of this another bumping thread to drive people’s attention away from your lies you’re sorely mistaken.

LOL, nope. Just a comment here and there to try to make others believe so, but nothing of substance.

Oh, look, either I missed this gem from your previous post or you edited the post to add it after I had already replied to it (or while I was doing it):

What a sad excuse for your unwillingness to do any real AG in game. You’ll never do any real AG in game at all, period, “balance” or no balance. But, hey, don’t let that stop you from telling me I cannot understand those game mechanics…

You answered the question that you asked to me about what do I (not you) think AG is and what it could be? And it’s me who doesn’t have “the wit to understand it”? :rofl:

I don’t remember, nor do I care, who was in my channel when you were, but even if that was the case, so what? That doesn’t change the fact that what you said about me being a failure at having attracted other players to do AG the way I do is simply another of your many lies.

You (again) have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, and (again) are claiming you have some insight about something that you don’t have at all…

What? Where did I say “no one” before (if that’s what you mean)? What am I admitting now that I hadn’t before? WTF are you talking about now?

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Lies, not sure where I have lied, just you making stuff up and a certain other poster had a thing about finding lies where none existed. You look more and more like Linus every time you post.

A partial admission on bumping.

I added it later as a clarification, mainly because I am toying with giving it a go once bumping has gone, been thinking of doing that for a while, since before I even got in contact with you, but of course without bumping.

It is my reason. You can call it a sad excuse all you want, but as you have never actually opposed freighter ganking…

I answered the question, but for me AG was always a community of casual hisec players that did what they could to resist gankers. Which is why doing your elitist attempt is not working…

It means you are failing to have any impact.

Above there you start talking about showing me people who you went after in an insulting way and then you admitted that you had driven people away. A number of people have you blocked, why would they do that if you were a reasonable respectful fellow which you are trying to suggest that you are. You are just socially inept in my view, one of the most amusing was watching you take a joke made by Astevon in your own channel which you took as serious and started to go off on it.

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What a bunch of incoherent nonsense… and then this:

LOL, what?

That is because I was replying to your post.

As for that little gem I was shocked that you could not work out he was joking, and he had to tell you quite firmly that it was not serious. I most probably have the logs as I keep all the logs of the chat channels I am in, I am of course recalling this from memory, but I remember being a bit amazed and amused.

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I wish you could find it, post it here, show us all how accurate it is your description of whatever it is that happened, and how relevant it is to “prove” my social ineptitude…

Sadly, I’m certain you won’t, or if you find something it will be utterly irrelevant, just like you’ve been so far unable to provide anything that would support any of your other claims when you’ve been asked to…

21/10/2018 and 23/10/2018 are what I am talking about, run along now.

I also came across one where I said GN Tora to you as a joke quite early on, ROFL…

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The game client logs all the channels you are in it should be easy to find. Except of course you just made it all up, then it’s not so easy to find.

Congratulations on reaching 100 posts in this Seinfeld of a thread!

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This post is intended as a reference point that anyone interested may refer to in the future to show others the kind of “participant” in these forums that our beloved @Dracvlad is.

This post is a work in progress and WILL be edited multiple times until it reaches the level of clarity, thoroughness, and verifiability I’m aiming at, which is not easy to accomplish in the kind of messy and lengthy threads into which Dracvlad purposely turns any discussion in which he participates.

How it all started and this comedy thread was born

The origin of this thread is the comments that some of us made about one of the things that a CSM candidate @Lorelei_Ierendi said in his CSM thread, specifically this:

You may see the comments I in particular made to that here. Note that I, like others, quoted what it was exactly that I was referring to in my reply.

Nowhere did Lorelei say in that or any other thread that I had misunderstood what she meant. In her reply to me, she said this (emphasis on “just” added):

Note also that nowhere did Lorelei said she wants an overall 50% chance to survive a gank, what she said she wants is at least a 50% chance to survive.

As I explained in a reply to another poster in that thread that had misunderstood what Lorelei meant, the implications of this would appear to be that, no matter how well the ganker does his job and how badly or carelessly the victim fits and flies his ship, the victim would have a 50% chance to survive the gank, whereas careful pilots would have a higher overall chance to survive as a result. Lorelei herself liked the post.

At some point Dracvlad decided to chime in and started to call me and others dishonest and pathetic trolls for having mis-represented Lorelei’s words as meaning she wants a minimum 50% suicide ganking failure rate (which is exactly what she said she wants, regardless of the fact that she was obviously also proposing other things that might have their own merit or not).

It should be noted, for those not familiarised with this stuff, that it’s absolutely impossible to achieve the 50% (or any other) minimum survival rate Lorelei said she wants without introducing chance based suicide ganking mechanics, which is at the root of our criticism and something Dracvlad claims Lorelei neither said nor implied.


During the messy discussion that followed, Dracvlad would do things like claiming I said things I never said (which is particularly funny because that’s exactly what he was accusing me of doing). When told he was lying, he completely dodged the fact and told me to go read what he had said as if I hadn’t understood it:


I had also asked Lorelei whether what she said about wanting variable CONCORD response times was how she wanted to accomplish that 50% survival rate, because her vague statements so far didn’t make it clear at all whether both proposals were even related:

When Dracvlad saw that, he reacted like this:

But later on, and from then onwards, he would claim that’s what Lorelei was suggesting and would blame me for not understanding that was what she meant:

It’s so unbelievable that it may be difficult to follow, but what can be seen happened here is that Dracvlad blamed me at first for wondering whether variable CONCORD response times could be how Lorelei was expecting to accomplish that 50% survival rate, and later he would blame me for not understanding that’s what she was asking for…

Lorelei did eventually clarify that the two proposals are unrelated, i.e. she does want both variable CONCORD response times and 50% chance of survival, but doesn’t pretend to accomplish the latter with the former:

Interestingly enough, at the time of me writing this, Dracvlad would still keep saying things like this:


After me getting fed up with his nonsense and Dracvlad repeatedly calling me dishonest and pathetic troll for going by what Lorelei had actually said instead of what he pretended she meant, I told him this:

which made him reply with this:

A few posts later during which he pretended I should create another thread to talk about all this nonsense, he finally decided to create it himself… Yes, unbelievable but true, he created a whole thread (this thread) to let everybody know that he thinks I’m “60% possibility” a Tora Bushido alt… !!!

Now, how this started is relevant, because he would later in this thread try to backpedal from that in a (futile) attempt to make it look as if he was joking, but what clearly happened is that he got triggered by me turning hostile against him and that made him believe I might be someone else in disguise that doesn’t like him either.

How Dracvlad believes whether someone is right or wrong depends on whether he's a ganker or not, and would try to make anyone that disagrees with him look like he's ganker-aligned even if he's actually an anti-ganker

This is how Dracvlad started his “contribution” to the discussion taking place in the other thread:

Nowhere did he say in that post what had those gankers said that was wrong about their criticism of the 50% survival proposal, only that anything they said should be dismissed for the mere fact that they are gankers.

And even though at that moment I wasn’t “ganker-aligned” yet, I should be dismissed too because, according to him:

From then onwards he would feel entitled to say whatever he pleased there and call pathetic troll everybody that would dare to disagree with him and criticise Lorelei’s proposal.


He would of course also assume that, since Lorelei wanted suicide ganking to be nerfed one way or another, she had to be right, so Dracvlad would keep defending her even against her own words. Even after Lorelei had already said that she does want both variable CONCORD response times and 50% chance of survival, and that the former is not part of the latter:

Dracvlad would still keep repeating ad nauseam things like these:

How Dracvlad would try to seize the other thread, attacking other players there with completely off-topic, made up, and uncalled for stuff, only to later accuse them of trolling for replying to him

Dracvlad would repeatedly do things like the following:

  1. He would feel entitled to use Lorelei’s thread to attack me with made up stories and outright lies that are totally off-topic there and nobody had mentioned until he did.

  2. If I reply to him, he would then tell me I’m trolling the thread for replying to what he had said there himself.


An example of this would be when, in one of his posts there, he referred to me as:

which was completely off-topic and uncalled for. When I replied to him, he said this:


A more mind blowing case was when he said this in the other thread (plus other completely off-topic and uncalled for nonsense not quoted here):

and immediately afterwards (very few mins, if any) asked this thread to be closed saying this:

He could have used the very thread (this thread) he had supposedly created himself precisely for this stuff. But no, what he did instead is use the other thread (the thread he was saying I and others were trolling) to tell me a bunch of completely off-topic, made up, and uncalled for nonsense, only to come here immediately afterwards to say he wanted this thread closed because he wasn’t interested anymore in doing what he had just done…

But it gets better… When I noticed it, I replied showing what he had just done, only atm I wasn’t sure which of the two posts had been first, so I said he had posted both at the same time, to which he replied this:

According to him, it was me, not him, who was pathetic… for having made the mistake of saying he had posted both at the same time instead of one immediately after the other… only to a few hours later, long after he had said that, he would again post a bunch of completely off-topic, made up, uncalled for garbage including this:

How Dracvlad would reply with unintelligible gibberish when his lies and contradictions are exposed

Typical Dracvlad reactions when his lies and contradictions are exposed include:

  • Dodge the issue and try to drive attention away from it
  • Talk unintelligible gibberish that nobody may understand, to make it look like he has “explained” it and it’s the reader’s fault not being able to understand the “explanation”

Examples of the former can be seen in many posts. Some of them also include examples of the latter, so only the gems worth quoting for posterity that illustrate the latter have been provided below. You may click them to see them in context and how the full post also illustrates the dodging he does: